Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been an avid reader of this list for some time
> and read all the old posts on the issue above.
> 
> I need to convince myself that my experience with the
> headphones is normal and not a faulty unit, so I would
> appreciate a little feedback and advice on others
> experiences.
> 
> When I monitor the DTX through the headphones, with
> the level set to absolute max, I get barely adequate
> volume to hide the sticking sounds.  Admittedly this
> was through a fairly cheap pair of walkman-style
> headphones (which can send me deaf when connected to
> my Walkman).
> 
> So I went our and bought a pair of $70 Senheiser
> phones with specs of Sensitivity 106db and impedance
> 32 ohm.  These only helped maginally (but looked way
> cool).
> 
> I am now looking at returning them and forking our
> $100 for a pair of Sony monitor headphones, with
> similar sensitivity but higher impedance.  Being only
> vaguely familiar with electronic engineering, I'm not
> even too sure what I should be looking for.  Hopefully
> the extra $$$ mean something?
> 
> I this what all of you guys have to deal with on the
> DTX?  How can a manufacturer put out a product with
> such a woefully inadequate volume level.  Is there any
> point in contacting Yahama support?
> 
> Finally, I have read some posts that the signal from
> the line outputs on the back of the brain is
> significantly different than the headphone level.
> Some people said better, punchier, others said worse,
> flat.  Any comments on this?
> 
> Thanks
> Drew
> 
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Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Headphone sound level and quality yet again...


>Drew,
>
>I've had the same problem and almost didn't but the DTX because of it.
>The good news is there is
>a fix  in the brain settings. The bad news is I don't remember it & and
>since I'm at work, I can't
>look it up. I recall it having something to do sith switching from
>practice mode to live mode.
>Look in you manual. or maybe someone on this list knows off hand.
>
>Art Juchno
>
>Drew Cox wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been an avid reader of this list for some time
>> and read all the old posts on the issue above.
>>
>> I need to convince myself that my experience with the
>> headphones is normal and not a faulty unit, so I would
>> appreciate a little feedback and advice on others
>> experiences.
>>
>> When I monitor the DTX through the headphones, with
>> the level set to absolute max, I get barely adequate
>> volume to hide the sticking sounds.  Admittedly this
>> was through a fairly cheap pair of walkman-style
>> headphones (which can send me deaf when connected to
>> my Walkman).
>>
>> So I went our and bought a pair of $70 Senheiser
>> phones with specs of Sensitivity 106db and impedance
>> 32 ohm.  These only helped maginally (but looked way
>> cool).
>>
>> I am now looking at returning them and forking our
>> $100 for a pair of Sony monitor headphones, with
>> similar sensitivity but higher impedance.  Being only
>> vaguely familiar with electronic engineering, I'm not
>> even too sure what I should be looking for.  Hopefully
>> the extra $$$ mean something?
>>
>> I this what all of you guys have to deal with on the
>> DTX?  How can a manufacturer put out a product with
>> such a woefully inadequate volume level.  Is there any
>> point in contacting Yahama support?
>>
>> Finally, I have read some posts that the signal from
>> the line outputs on the back of the brain is
>> significantly different than the headphone level.
>> Some people said better, punchier, others said worse,
>> flat.  Any comments on this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Drew
>>
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>I picked up some Sennheiser's.
>
>Rick
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Art Juchno <juchnoa@...>
>To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Headphone sound level and quality yet again...
>
>
>>Drew,
>>
>>I've had the same problem and almost didn't but the DTX because of it.
>>The good news is there is
>>a fix  in the brain settings. The bad news is I don't remember it & and
>>since I'm at work, I can't
>>look it up. I recall it having something to do sith switching from
>>practice mode to live mode.
>>Look in you manual. or maybe someone on this list knows off hand.
>>
>>Art Juchno
>>
>>Drew Cox wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been an avid reader of this list for some time
>>> and read all the old posts on the issue above.
>>>
>>> I need to convince myself that my experience with the
>>> headphones is normal and not a faulty unit, so I would
>>> appreciate a little feedback and advice on others
>>> experiences.
>>>
>>> When I monitor the DTX through the headphones, with
>>> the level set to absolute max, I get barely adequate
>>> volume to hide the sticking sounds.  Admittedly this
>>> was through a fairly cheap pair of walkman-style
>>> headphones (which can send me deaf when connected to
>>> my Walkman).
>>>
>>> So I went our and bought a pair of $70 Senheiser
>>> phones with specs of Sensitivity 106db and impedance
>>> 32 ohm.  These only helped maginally (but looked way
>>> cool).
>>>
>>> I am now looking at returning them and forking our
>>> $100 for a pair of Sony monitor headphones, with
>>> similar sensitivity but higher impedance.  Being only
>>> vaguely familiar with electronic engineering, I'm not
>>> even too sure what I should be looking for.  Hopefully
>>> the extra $$$ mean something?
>>>
>>> I this what all of you guys have to deal with on the
>>> DTX?  How can a manufacturer put out a product with
>>> such a woefully inadequate volume level.  Is there any
>>> point in contacting Yahama support?
>>>
>>> Finally, I have read some posts that the signal from
>>> the line outputs on the back of the brain is
>>> significantly different than the headphone level.
>>> Some people said better, punchier, others said worse,
>>> flat.  Any comments on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
>>> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo!
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-----Original Message-----
From: sjr41 [mailto:sjr41@...]
Sent: 21 October 2002 22:21
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Headphone sound level and quality yet again...


Hi all -- 

I asked the exact same question (about headphone sound level) earlier 
today -- i see now that this is a problem for many...

I have the EXACT same headphones as the ones described below, and i 
still feel like i am not getting enough volume out of the DTXPress 
headphone jack...

I am still looking through the archives for answers, but just wanted 
to say that so far, it seems like upgrading headphones alone is not 
enough to deliver what i consider to be a satisfactory sound level...

so, other suggestions?
thanks!

scott


--- In DTXpress@y..., lovesign@t... wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> If it's of any interest, i use Sennheiser Evolution H2200 cans in 
both live and studio set-up's. Here's the tech spec:
> 
> Dynamic transducer
> Circum Aural, closed back ear coupling
> 12-22000 Hz Frequency Response
> 64 ohm impedance
> Characteristic SPL (@1KHz, 1 Vrms) 106dB
> THD (@ 1KHz, 100dB SPL) <0.3%
> 140g
> 3M oxygen free copper cable (OFC) detachable with 2.5mm jack
> 3.5mm stereo jack with 1/4" adaptor.
> 
> These are specially designed cans 4 musicians and sound engineers 
and cost approx. £50. I got mine from Richer Sounds (UK).
> 
> Best Cans Ever ! LOL
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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