Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the set for a few 
minutes in a music store. i was doing fast double strokes (+ ghost 
notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't keep up, there were 
quite a few missing notes. same story with the kick pad (it missed 
few notes). is this common? what's the situation with drumpad's 
sensitivity? 

ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i don't now anything 
about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is it possible that the 
dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from customer abuse or wasn't 
properly set? i need e-drums for silent practise/playing at home, 
nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme :) and i wouldn't 
like to experience this at home, spending 1000$ and regret it...

but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with dtxpress, so after all 
it's a good product?

Hi Bo,

It is hard to say why you experienced what you did, but there are 
settings to adjust the sensitivity of each pad, as well as how loud 
they react to being struck. That being said, it is also possible that 
you tried a used set that has been abused, and one or more of the pads 
may not work too well. 

The last part of my response would be, if you're looking for a used 
set I wouldn't spend $1000, they can be had cheaper.  New ones can be 
had for around that price, but be careful - Yamaha recently upgraded 
the DTXpress, adding more rack supports and upgrading 1 or 2 of the 
pads to a better model.  If you pay that kind of money make sure 
you're not getting one that's been hanging around in someone's 
storeroom for a while, at the same price you could get the newer 
(better) version for from someone else.  There are also many other 
types of pads that can be connected to the DTXpress, you may find 
yourself happier with something more sensitive for at least the 
snare...

If you live in a major metro area, maybe someone in this group would 
let you try a kit that's set up properly?

Walt

--- In DTXpress@y..., bohasi@y... wrote:
> i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the set for a few 
> minutes in a music store. i was doing fast double strokes (+ ghost 
> notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't keep up, there were 
> quite a few missing notes. same story with the kick pad (it missed 
> few notes). is this common? what's the situation with drumpad's 
> sensitivity? 
> 
> ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i don't now anything 
> about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is it possible that 
the 

> dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from customer abuse or wasn't 
> properly set? i need e-drums for silent practise/playing at home, 
> nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme :) and i wouldn't 
> like to experience this at home, spending 1000$ and regret it...
> 
> but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with dtxpress, so after all 
> it's a good product?

I had the same exprerience when trying the DTXpress at the store. I 
found the factory settings were somewhat weak, but after setting the 
sensitivity DTXpress never missed a hit.

Walt is right, there is a better DTXpress set now, it comes with a 
much better rack (RS60A) and they've replaced one TP60 with a TP80S 
(so you can get two sounds from it), and one PCY60 with a PCY80S 
(again two sounds plus choking capability). I believe the model 
number for the new set is DTKP9A instead DTKP9.

--- In DTXpress@y..., "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Bo,
> 
> It is hard to say why you experienced what you did, but there are 
> settings to adjust the sensitivity of each pad, as well as how loud 
> they react to being struck. That being said, it is also possible 
that 
> you tried a used set that has been abused, and one or more of the 
pads 
> may not work too well. 
> 
> The last part of my response would be, if you're looking for a used 
> set I wouldn't spend $1000, they can be had cheaper.  New ones can 
be 
> had for around that price, but be careful - Yamaha recently 
upgraded 
> the DTXpress, adding more rack supports and upgrading 1 or 2 of the 
> pads to a better model.  If you pay that kind of money make sure 
> you're not getting one that's been hanging around in someone's 
> storeroom for a while, at the same price you could get the newer 
> (better) version for from someone else.  There are also many other 
> types of pads that can be connected to the DTXpress, you may find 
> yourself happier with something more sensitive for at least the 
> snare...
> 
> If you live in a major metro area, maybe someone in this group 
would 
> let you try a kit that's set up properly?
> 
> Walt
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., bohasi@y... wrote:
> > i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the set for a few 
> > minutes in a music store. i was doing fast double strokes (+ 
ghost 
> > notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't keep up, there 
were 
> > quite a few missing notes. same story with the kick pad (it 
missed 
> > few notes). is this common? what's the situation with drumpad's 
> > sensitivity? 
> > 
> > ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i don't now 
anything 
> > about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is it possible that 
> the 
> > dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from customer abuse or 
wasn't 
> > properly set? i need e-drums for silent practise/playing at home, 
> > nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme :) and i wouldn't 
> > like to experience this at home, spending 1000$ and regret it...
> > 
> > but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with dtxpress, so after 
all 
> > it's a good product?

Walt,

When did Yamaha update the kit?  How can I tell if I'm getting a new 
version of it?  Thanks.

Mike

--- In DTXpress@y..., "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Bo,
> 
> It is hard to say why you experienced what you did, but there are 
> settings to adjust the sensitivity of each pad, as well as how loud 
> they react to being struck. That being said, it is also possible 
that 
> you tried a used set that has been abused, and one or more of the 
pads 
> may not work too well. 
> 
> The last part of my response would be, if you're looking for a used 
> set I wouldn't spend $1000, they can be had cheaper.  New ones can 
be 
> had for around that price, but be careful - Yamaha recently 
upgraded 
> the DTXpress, adding more rack supports and upgrading 1 or 2 of the 
> pads to a better model.  If you pay that kind of money make sure 
> you're not getting one that's been hanging around in someone's 
> storeroom for a while, at the same price you could get the newer 
> (better) version for from someone else.  There are also many other 
> types of pads that can be connected to the DTXpress, you may find 
> yourself happier with something more sensitive for at least the 
> snare...
> 
> If you live in a major metro area, maybe someone in this group 
would 
> let you try a kit that's set up properly?
> 
> Walt
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., bohasi@y... wrote:
> > i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the set for a few 
> > minutes in a music store. i was doing fast double strokes (+ 
ghost 
> > notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't keep up, there 
were 
> > quite a few missing notes. same story with the kick pad (it 
missed 
> > few notes). is this common? what's the situation with drumpad's 
> > sensitivity? 
> > 
> > ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i don't now 
anything 
> > about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is it possible that 
> the 
> > dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from customer abuse or 
wasn't 
> > properly set? i need e-drums for silent practise/playing at home, 
> > nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme :) and i wouldn't 
> > like to experience this at home, spending 1000$ and regret it...
> > 
> > but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with dtxpress, so after 
all 
> > it's a good product?

Hi Mike,

The most obvious thing is that they added a horizontal
support to the front, in addition to the tube that the
pads are mounted to, and that they've included a TP80S
pad.  If memory serves me correctly, it was around
September that it was announced.  It is possible that
someone posted the announcement to the group, try the
search window..  Walt 
--- mikebee@... wrote:
> Walt,
> 
> When did Yamaha update the kit?  How can I tell if
> I'm getting a new 
> version of it?  Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Bo,
> > 
> > It is hard to say why you experienced what you
> did, but there are 
> > settings to adjust the sensitivity of each pad, as
> well as how loud 
> > they react to being struck. That being said, it is
> also possible 
> that 
> > you tried a used set that has been abused, and one
> or more of the 
> pads 
> > may not work too well. 
> > 
> > The last part of my response would be, if you're
> looking for a used 
> > set I wouldn't spend $1000, they can be had
> cheaper.  New ones can 
> be 
> > had for around that price, but be careful - Yamaha
> recently 
> upgraded 
> > the DTXpress, adding more rack supports and
> upgrading 1 or 2 of the 
> > pads to a better model.  If you pay that kind of
> money make sure 
> > you're not getting one that's been hanging around
> in someone's 
> > storeroom for a while, at the same price you could
> get the newer 
> > (better) version for from someone else.  There are
> also many other 
> > types of pads that can be connected to the
> DTXpress, you may find 
> > yourself happier with something more sensitive for
> at least the 
> > snare...
> > 
> > If you live in a major metro area, maybe someone
> in this group 
> would 
> > let you try a kit that's set up properly?
> > 
> > Walt
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., bohasi@y... wrote:
> > > i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the
> set for a few 
> > > minutes in a music store. i was doing fast
> double strokes (+ 
> ghost 
> > > notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't
> keep up, there 
> were 
> > > quite a few missing notes. same story with the
> kick pad (it 
> missed 
> > > few notes). is this common? what's the situation
> with drumpad's 
> > > sensitivity? 
> > > 
> > > ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i
> don't now 
> anything 
> > > about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is
> it possible that 
> > the 
> > > dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from
> customer abuse or 
> wasn't 
> > > properly set? i need e-drums for silent
> practise/playing at home, 
> > > nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme
> :) and i wouldn't 
> > > like to experience this at home, spending 1000$
> and regret it...
> > > 
> > > but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with
> dtxpress, so after 
> all 
> > > it's a good product?
> 
> 


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Hi Mike,

I finally found what I wanted you to see - it is at 
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/DTXPRESS-Upgrade.html

Walt


--- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> The most obvious thing is that they added a horizontal
> support to the front, in addition to the tube that the
> pads are mounted to, and that they've included a TP80S
> pad.  If memory serves me correctly, it was around
> September that it was announced.  It is possible that
> someone posted the announcement to the group, try the
> search window..  Walt 
> --- mikebee@e... wrote:
> > Walt,
> > 
> > When did Yamaha update the kit?  How can I tell if
> > I'm getting a new 
> > version of it?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Bo,
> > > 
> > > It is hard to say why you experienced what you
> > did, but there are 
> > > settings to adjust the sensitivity of each pad, as
> > well as how loud 
> > > they react to being struck. That being said, it is
> > also possible 
> > that 
> > > you tried a used set that has been abused, and one
> > or more of the 
> > pads 
> > > may not work too well. 
> > > 
> > > The last part of my response would be, if you're
> > looking for a used 
> > > set I wouldn't spend $1000, they can be had
> > cheaper.  New ones can 
> > be 
> > > had for around that price, but be careful - Yamaha
> > recently 
> > upgraded 
> > > the DTXpress, adding more rack supports and
> > upgrading 1 or 2 of the 
> > > pads to a better model.  If you pay that kind of
> > money make sure 
> > > you're not getting one that's been hanging around
> > in someone's 
> > > storeroom for a while, at the same price you could
> > get the newer 
> > > (better) version for from someone else.  There are
> > also many other 
> > > types of pads that can be connected to the
> > DTXpress, you may find 
> > > yourself happier with something more sensitive for
> > at least the 
> > > snare...
> > > 
> > > If you live in a major metro area, maybe someone
> > in this group 
> > would 
> > > let you try a kit that's set up properly?
> > > 
> > > Walt
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., bohasi@y... wrote:
> > > > i was a little bit dissapointed. i've played the
> > set for a few 
> > > > minutes in a music store. i was doing fast
> > double strokes (+ 
> > ghost 
> > > > notes) on the snare pad, but the thing couldn't
> > keep up, there 
> > were 
> > > > quite a few missing notes. same story with the
> > kick pad (it 
> > missed 
> > > > few notes). is this common? what's the situation
> > with drumpad's 
> > > > sensitivity? 
> > > > 
> > > > ok first of all i'm a begginer at e-drums and i
> > don't now 
> > anything 
> > > > about module/pad settings. can this be fixed? is
> > it possible that 
> > > the 
> > > > dtxpress set (from store) was thrashed from
> > customer abuse or 
> > wasn't 
> > > > properly set? i need e-drums for silent
> > practise/playing at home, 
> > > > nothing else (don't have the money for dtxtreme
> > :) and i wouldn't 
> > > > like to experience this at home, spending 1000$
> > and regret it...
> > > > 
> > > > but i'm glad that u guys are satisfied with
> > dtxpress, so after 
> > all 
> > > > it's a good product?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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