Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi All,

I am having a problem with my hihat peddle.  It seems to be 
reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed sound and when it is 
closed it gives an open sound!

Ihave checked the input and it seemd right!  Help please as it is 
wrecking my mojo!!

THanking you in advance!

Brian from Dublin Ireland

Hi Brian,

Does it happen on the Yamaha kits, or just on the user kits? Maybe 
you have the sounds programmed in reverse. Start with one of the 
default kits.  Put your foot on the pedal, hit the pad, and find a 
closed hh voice at the back of the manual that you like. Then 
release your foot, hit the pad, and find an open voice to go with 
it. If the hh works as expected, then nothing is wrong with the 
controller. But if the voices are reversed on the default as well as 
user kits, then the problem is going to require more thought. Most 
likely, the signals are getting crossed somehow in the unit. Let us 
know.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 <inazone230@b...>" 
<inazone230@b...> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am having a problem with my hihat peddle.  It seems to be 
> reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed sound and when it is 
> closed it gives an open sound!
> 
> Ihave checked the input and it seemd right!  Help please as it is 
> wrecking my mojo!!
> 
> THanking you in advance!
> 
> Brian from Dublin Ireland

Hi Brian,

This may seem like a silly question, but here goes
anyway - when you power up your module is your foot on
your HH pedal?  If so, don't do that...

Walt
--- "brianlad2000 <inazone230@...>"
<inazone230@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am having a problem with my hihat peddle.  It
> seems to be 
> reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed sound
> and when it is 
> closed it gives an open sound!
> 
> Ihave checked the input and it seemd right!  Help
> please as it is 
> wrecking my mojo!!
> 
> THanking you in advance!
> 
> Brian from Dublin Ireland
> 
> 


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Thanks for the suggestions guys but it happens on both user kits and 
yamaha kits and it happens when I switch it on and I have not got my 
foot on it!  

Also to make it more confusing I was playing the kit later and the hi 
hat was working properly for a good while and then later in the day I 
went back to it and it was back to the reverse way??  Weird eh?

Brian 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Does it happen on the Yamaha kits, or just on the user kits? Maybe 
> you have the sounds programmed in reverse. Start with one of the 
> default kits.  Put your foot on the pedal, hit the pad, and find a 
> closed hh voice at the back of the manual that you like. Then 
> release your foot, hit the pad, and find an open voice to go with 
> it. If the hh works as expected, then nothing is wrong with the 
> controller. But if the voices are reversed on the default as well 
as 

> user kits, then the problem is going to require more thought. Most 
> likely, the signals are getting crossed somehow in the unit. Let us 
> know.
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 <inazone230@b...>" 
> <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I am having a problem with my hihat peddle.  It seems to be 
> > reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed sound and when it is 
> > closed it gives an open sound!
> > 
> > Ihave checked the input and it seemd right!  Help please as it is 
> > wrecking my mojo!!
> > 
> > THanking you in advance!
> > 
> > Brian from Dublin Ireland

Yeah, really weird. Any chance of you getting another controller 
from the music store and trying it? Just to make sure that the 
module isn't screwing up somehow, are you able to program a closed 
hh sound and an open one on separate pads w/o any drift? It just 
seems like the controller's at fault, especially since it does work 
at times. 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 <inazone230@b...>" 
<inazone230@b...> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions guys but it happens on both user kits 
and 
> yamaha kits and it happens when I switch it on and I have not got 
my 
> foot on it!  
> 
> Also to make it more confusing I was playing the kit later and the 
hi 
> hat was working properly for a good while and then later in the 
day I 
> went back to it and it was back to the reverse way??  Weird eh?
> 
> Brian 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Brian,
> > 
> > Does it happen on the Yamaha kits, or just on the user kits? 
Maybe 
> > you have the sounds programmed in reverse. Start with one of the 
> > default kits.  Put your foot on the pedal, hit the pad, and find 
a 
> > closed hh voice at the back of the manual that you like. Then 
> > release your foot, hit the pad, and find an open voice to go 
with 
> > it. If the hh works as expected, then nothing is wrong with the 
> > controller. But if the voices are reversed on the default as 
well 
> as 
> > user kits, then the problem is going to require more thought. 
Most 
> > likely, the signals are getting crossed somehow in the unit. Let 
us 
> > know.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 
<inazone230@b...>" 
> > <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > I am having a problem with my hihat peddle.  It seems to be 
> > > reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed sound and when it 
is 
> > > closed it gives an open sound!
> > > 
> > > Ihave checked the input and it seemd right!  Help please as it 
is 

> > > wrecking my mojo!!
> > > 
> > > THanking you in advance!
> > > 
> > > Brian from Dublin Ireland

Hi Brian,

What model HH pedal do you have?  The Yamaha modules
try to sense which polarity all of the components have
when it powers up, which is why I asked the question
about having the pedal pressed when you power on the
module.  If your pedal has a polarity switch you may
want to try setting it to the other position, or also
switching it back and forth a few times to make sure
it is making good contact.  The other thing I would
suggest is swapping the cable to make sure it doesn't
have a partial short circuit somewhere.  After that,
and assuming it is an HH60 or HH80 pedal, I can't
think of what may be wrong, and would agree with Ed
that it may be time to have it checked by a
professional.  Walt
--- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@...>"
<liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
> Yeah, really weird. Any chance of you getting
> another controller 
> from the music store and trying it? Just to make
> sure that the 
> module isn't screwing up somehow, are you able to
> program a closed 
> hh sound and an open one on separate pads w/o any
> drift? It just 
> seems like the controller's at fault, especially
> since it does work 
> at times. 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000
> <inazone230@b...>" 
> <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the suggestions guys but it happens on
> both user kits 
> and 
> > yamaha kits and it happens when I switch it on and
> I have not got 
> my 
> > foot on it!  
> > 
> > Also to make it more confusing I was playing the
> kit later and the 
> hi 
> > hat was working properly for a good while and then
> later in the 
> day I 
> > went back to it and it was back to the reverse
> way??  Weird eh?
> > 
> > Brian 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Hi Brian,
> > > 
> > > Does it happen on the Yamaha kits, or just on
> the user kits? 
> Maybe 
> > > you have the sounds programmed in reverse. Start
> with one of the 
> > > default kits.  Put your foot on the pedal, hit
> the pad, and find 
> a 
> > > closed hh voice at the back of the manual that
> you like. Then 
> > > release your foot, hit the pad, and find an open
> voice to go 
> with 
> > > it. If the hh works as expected, then nothing is
> wrong with the 
> > > controller. But if the voices are reversed on
> the default as 
> well 
> > as 
> > > user kits, then the problem is going to require
> more thought. 
> Most 
> > > likely, the signals are getting crossed somehow
> in the unit. Let 
> us 
> > > know.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 
> <inazone230@b...>" 
> > > <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > 
> > > > I am having a problem with my hihat peddle. 
> It seems to be 
> > > > reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed
> sound and when it 
> is 
> > > > closed it gives an open sound!
> > > > 
> > > > Ihave checked the input and it seemd right! 
> Help please as it 
> is 
> > > > wrecking my mojo!!
> > > > 
> > > > THanking you in advance!
> > > > 
> > > > Brian from Dublin Ireland
> 
> 


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Thanks for all your help so far guys! I am going to try your 
suggestions when I get home tonight and I will let you know how I get 
on!

Fingers crossed!  Brian

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> What model HH pedal do you have?  The Yamaha modules
> try to sense which polarity all of the components have
> when it powers up, which is why I asked the question
> about having the pedal pressed when you power on the
> module.  If your pedal has a polarity switch you may
> want to try setting it to the other position, or also
> switching it back and forth a few times to make sure
> it is making good contact.  The other thing I would
> suggest is swapping the cable to make sure it doesn't
> have a partial short circuit somewhere.  After that,
> and assuming it is an HH60 or HH80 pedal, I can't
> think of what may be wrong, and would agree with Ed
> that it may be time to have it checked by a
> professional.  Walt
> --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Yeah, really weird. Any chance of you getting
> > another controller 
> > from the music store and trying it? Just to make
> > sure that the 
> > module isn't screwing up somehow, are you able to
> > program a closed 
> > hh sound and an open one on separate pads w/o any
> > drift? It just 
> > seems like the controller's at fault, especially
> > since it does work 
> > at times. 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000
> > <inazone230@b...>" 
> > <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the suggestions guys but it happens on
> > both user kits 
> > and 
> > > yamaha kits and it happens when I switch it on and
> > I have not got 
> > my 
> > > foot on it!  
> > > 
> > > Also to make it more confusing I was playing the
> > kit later and the 
> > hi 
> > > hat was working properly for a good while and then
> > later in the 
> > day I 
> > > went back to it and it was back to the reverse
> > way??  Weird eh?
> > > 
> > > Brian 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > 
> > > > Does it happen on the Yamaha kits, or just on
> > the user kits? 
> > Maybe 
> > > > you have the sounds programmed in reverse. Start
> > with one of the 
> > > > default kits.  Put your foot on the pedal, hit
> > the pad, and find 
> > a 
> > > > closed hh voice at the back of the manual that
> > you like. Then 
> > > > release your foot, hit the pad, and find an open
> > voice to go 
> > with 
> > > > it. If the hh works as expected, then nothing is
> > wrong with the 
> > > > controller. But if the voices are reversed on
> > the default as 
> > well 
> > > as 
> > > > user kits, then the problem is going to require
> > more thought. 
> > Most 
> > > > likely, the signals are getting crossed somehow
> > in the unit. Let 
> > us 
> > > > know.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brianlad2000 
> > <inazone230@b...>" 
> > > > <inazone230@b...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am having a problem with my hihat peddle. 
> > It seems to be 
> > > > > reversed?  when it is open it gives a closed
> > sound and when it 
> > is 
> > > > > closed it gives an open sound!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ihave checked the input and it seemd right! 
> > Help please as it 
> > is 
> > > > > wrecking my mojo!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > THanking you in advance!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brian from Dublin Ireland
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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