Hi Stephen,
Here's my take on this: First, it's hardly surprising that a piezo
on the body and one on the rim of a snare would be prone to
interaction. Regardless of the obvious physical proximity of the
two, sidesticking itself presents another problem, namely, that it's
hard to hit the rim without implicating the body, at least to some
extent (more on that later). Also, when playing a sidestick on the
Pintech, it's best for the stick not to traverse the center of the
drum but to approach the far rim from a little below the diameter,
so that you're coming up at a slight angle.
On specific rejection: Spec. rej. reduces the sensitivity of one
trigger when another particular one is hit for a certain period of
time. Specifically rejecting 9 from 2 at at a level of 9 means that
2 won't sound when 9 is hit unless the level of force that reaches
it, from anywhere, including its own surface, is higher than 9. But
you can see how limiting that is for poor pad 2. It needs so much
juice to make a noise when pad 9 is hit, it might just as well give
up, and it does. Unless you're using one of spinal tap's amps, not
much gets above 9. So when both 2 and 9 are struck at the same time,
2 simply shuts up.
But how does this affect me, you say? My problem is exactly the
opposite: Input 2 works but 9 doesn't. Well, when you hit 9, you're
probably also hitting 2, but most likely not very hard, not at a 9
level--an occupational hazard with sidesticking. So what's happening
is that because 2 is getting a bit of a hit when 9 is getting a bit
of a hit, though not hard enough to break that sound barrier set in
2's spec. rej., you're not getting any sidestick sound.
The remedy is twofold: try to sidestick implicating as little of the
snare's body as possible and turn down 2's specific rejection of 9
and 9's specific rejection of 2 to the point at which they work well
independently.
Yikes, that sounds complicated. I hope it helps.
Ed
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<brown8700@a...> wrote:
> OK Guys, help me out.
> I have a college degree and I'm pretty smart, but this rejection
> setting logic (and its explanation in the manual) has me stymied.
> Here's what I'm trying to do:
> I have a Pintech cc101 snare. The snare triggers into #1 and the
rim
> into #9. For one of my kits I have a snare (#98) for trigger #1
and a
> sidestick (#112, I think).
> Naturally, when I go for the sidestick, on trigger #9, I end up
with
> crosstalk coming from trigger #2. So, I thought I could go to the
> trigger setup in #2 and set a high rejection value for signals
coming
> from trigger #9.
> The LED looks something like this:
> Trigger #2
> SPCrej = 9 frm = 9
>
> However, this action cancels out any signal at all from the rim.
So,
> I reversed my settings, like so:
> Trigger #9
> SPCrej = 9 frm = 2
>
> This resulted in the same outcome, in that I could only get a
snare
> snare when hitting the pad or the rim.
>
> I didn't have time to mess with this further, but I'm thinking
that I
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> should now try one of two things:
> 1) Use the first logic but lower the SPCrej value.
> 2) Go back to aucustic drums.
> Advice?
> Stephen (Not as old as Walt, but feeling every bit a much like it)
