Ed,
Don't worry, I never kill the messenger. I am here to learn as much about my
system as I can. And I if somebody can show me how to do something to the
module/pad to make it function different/better then I end up "winning"
because I learn something.
As far as the three-zone issue, I have noticed on some websites this has
been advertised (I believe falsely) but here are some direct quotes from the
DTXpressII manual:
"TRIGGER INPUT JACK (1 KICK-8HI HAT)
Inputs 1-8 are compatible with switch type pads while
inputs 2,6, and 7 are compatiable with 3-zone type pads."
"Trigger input jacks are all stereo input type jacks."
"It is possible to connect 3-zone type pads like the tp65S to
trigger input jacks 2 snare, 6 ride, and 7 crash"
"Trigger Inputs 1-8 (stereo phone jack-> L:trigger input, R:rim switch)"
"Trigger Inputs 9/10 (stereo phone jack -> L,R:trigger input"
"When the TP65S/sp is connected to input 2/6/7, its 3-zone function is
available
(pad X 1, rim sound X 2). If the pad is connected to any other input, the
rim
will produce only one sound."
So the three zone Pad TP65S won't produce three sounds on zones 1, 3,4,5,
but only on 2,6,7.
I as far as the other issue of choking, I will go back this weekend, when
I'm fully awake and experiment again.
I did use a stereo cable last night when I backchecked, because I assigned a
C/002 voice to the pad and a C/003 to the rim and got two sounds, which
would be impossible with a mono cable. So I am certain I didn't screw that
up. I also set the trigger input to PCY65 which is the setting for both the
PCY65/PCY65S. I started by plugging the pad into input no. 1 and no choke. I
then reset the pad type to PCY80 which is the setting for both the
PCY80/PCY80s and no choke.
I will do a more detailed investigation and connect the pads and try
multiple PCY65S/PCY80S and multiple modules to see if something is broke or
I missing something else.
I really hope you guys are right and I am wrong, because that will mean I
can have even more fun with my babies.
Hope everyone had a good Easter like I did with my family.
OldGuyDrummer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 9:39 AM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Volume Aux song/ click
>
> Hey oldguy,
>
> Yamaha advertises three-zones all Xppress II inputs, and stereo
> inputs are capable in principle of chokes, anyway. In fact, choking
> is a prime function of the FSRs. I don't own one so don't kill the
> messenger. Anyone?
>
> Ed
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
> > Just to make sure I didn't miss something (since my playtime with
> the
> > set is usually between 10pm and 1am) I went back and checked. I
> > attached a PCY65S and then a PCY80S to zones 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and set
> > the trigger and voice to the appropriate settings and choke is
> only
> > available on the three zone channels (2,6,7) and not on the stereo
> > zones 1,3,4,5. Which sucks, because when I had just two modules
> and
> > more PCY65s/PCY80s than I had three zone inputs, one of cymbals
> > didn't have choking. Kinda makes you want to go and "choke"
> somebody
> > at Yamaha, since like you said this was available on the original
> > DTXpress.
> >
> > For those who don't have access to a DTXpressII the basic setup
> from
> > the factory is:
> >
> > Zone 1 - Bass (options for setting pad and rim)
> > Zone 2 - Snare (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > Zone 3 - Tom1 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > Zone 4 - Tom2 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > Zone 5 - Tom3 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > Zone 6 - Ride (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > Zone 7 - Crash (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > Zone 8 - HiHat (options for setting pad and rim opened, setting
> pad
> > and rim closed, plus footsplash)
> > Zone 9/10 - Aux (Single stereo type input jack that will take two
> > inputs)
> > HHCTL - For plugging HH65 pedal or similar.
> >
> > Zones 2,6,7 are interchangable for attaching the three zone pad TP-
> > 65s or any stereo cymbols (pad,rim,choke).
> >
> > OldGuyDrummer
> >
> >
> > -- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...>
> wrote:
> > > Regarding the choke function only being available on inputs 2,
> 6,
> > and
> > > 7. Is this correct? Or is it that these are the inputs that have
> > that
> > > pad type factory selected. On the DTXpress 1, all inputs can
> have
> > > choke, if pad type is set correctly. I think it is the same on
> the
> > > xpressII.
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > > > fxsran,
> > > >
> > > > I am assuming you have a DTXPRESSII. I believe (from memory)
> > there
> > > are
> > > > three volume knobs on the front of the DtxpressII, overall
> volume
> > > out, click
> > > > volume, song volume and aux input volume. The song volume is
> > > adjusted by
> > > > the "Accomp Vol" knob on the front of the module. This will
> > > > increase/decrease volume of song you are playing too. The
> choke
> > > function is
> > > > only available on zones 2, 6 & 7 and you must use a stereo
> cable
> > to
> > > connect
> > > > the pad and the pad type needs to be set for a PCY65S and not
> the
> > > PCY65.
> > > > Ditto, what Ed said about the "live" and "practice" mode.
> > > > Hopes this helps.
> > > >
> > > > OldGuyDrummer
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@y...]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Volume Aux song/ click
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi fxsran (how do you pronounce that?),
> > > > >
> > > > > Dumb answers are what you've gotta watch out for. Here comes
> > one
> > > > > now, I think. First of all, you can't adjust the relative
> > balance
> > > of
> > > > > song and drums inside the brain, except incidentally by
> > fiddling
> > > > > with the volume of individual triggers in the voice menu or
> the
> > > > > volume of the entire kit in the utility menu. The reason why
> > you
> > > can
> > > > > only affect the snare and kick via the knobs on the front
> panel
> > > now
> > > > > is that you probably have the utility menu's volume control
> > mode
> > > set
> > > > > to "live" instead of "practice." If you switch the setting,
> the
> > > > > accomp knob will take care of the song level and the click
> > knob,
> > > > > the . . . click level. Pressing the shift button while
> turning
> > > those
> > > > > knobs in the practice setting will get you the snare and
> kick,
> > > > > respectively. By the way, the aux volume knob controls the
> > volume
> > > of
> > > > > only an external device connected via aux input beside it.
> You
> > can
> > > > > find the explanation in the manual somewhere in the "About
> the
> > > Song"
> > > > > section. Let us know if that isn't the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the choke function, the parameter "pad type" in the
> trigger
> > > menu
> > > > > determines what kind of response you'll get from individual
> > > > > triggers. You might have accidentally set the pad type for
> the
> > > > > cymbal in question incorrectly, resulting in the loss of the
> > choke
> > > > > function. I forget which type disables the choke, but it
> > shouldn't
> > > > > take long finding out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fxsran" <fxsan@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im a newbie here, ive had by kit for a month now and i'm
> down
> > > with
> > > > > a
> > > > > > problem already. I cant adjust the volume of the Aux or
> the
> > > click
> > > > > > from the brain. Everytime if i play along with the presets
> > song
> > > > > the
> > > > > > volume seems to be too loud and drowning my kit . My Shift
> > > button
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the panel dont seem to work. i can only adjust the volume
> of
> > the
> > > > > > snare and the kick from the panel button.. i guess i must
> > have
> > > > > done
> > > > > > something wrong or just plain dumb..
> > > > > > Also I seem to have lost the choking effect on my crash
> > cymbals.
> > > > > > Is there anything in the settings that i might have
> > accidentally
> > > > > > turned off..
> > > > > > anyone care to help me out? Thanks in advance
> > > > > > My apologies if my questions are just too dumb..
> > > > >
> > > > >
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