Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi all,

I'm using the "DTXpress I" BTW...

While playing along to a CD (or tape) as it's plugged into the AUX 
IN of the DTXpress, is it possible to mute the CD's audio at the L/R 
output's of this drum kit, but still hear the CD ONLY in the 
headphones?

This would especially be handy while using the DTXpress for 
recording. If I'm sending a source into the AUX IN and trying to 
record only the drums I end up getting the AUX IN signal source 
recorded as well.

I do however have a work around...Using an external mixer to send in 
an AUX source signal into, the DTXpress's L/R out's & the I monitor 
the mixer with phones...But it would sure make sence for the 
DTXpress to be able to do that! 

Steve

"BUMP" 

Hello...Is this thing on?:O





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm using the "DTXpress I" BTW...
> 
> While playing along to a CD (or tape) as it's plugged into the AUX 
> IN of the DTXpress, is it possible to mute the CD's audio at the 
L/R 
> output's of this drum kit, but still hear the CD ONLY in the 
> headphones?
> 
> This would especially be handy while using the DTXpress for 
> recording. If I'm sending a source into the AUX IN and trying to 
> record only the drums I end up getting the AUX IN signal source 
> recorded as well.
> 
> I do however have a work around...Using an external mixer to send 
in 
> an AUX source signal into, the DTXpress's L/R out's & the I 
monitor 

> the mixer with phones...But it would sure make sence for the 
> DTXpress to be able to do that! 
> 
> Steve

--- "zapaxe" wrote:
> Hello...Is this thing on?:O
> > ...is it possible to mute the CD's audio at the 
> > L/R output's of this drum kit, but still hear the
> CD ONLY in the headphones?

Sorry. I think we all been waiting for someone else to give you the 
bad news. I don't think it can be done.

Stewart

Sorry to ignore you there... :) Fairly unusual in this group, we're
usually so helpful it hurts... :D

As for your issue, it seems like what you're trying to do is have a *mix*
of CD and Drums in your headset but get the drum-only out the back of the
DTXpress. As far as I can tell(looking at the block diagram of the unit
in the manual), the headphones jack on the front of the unit is driven by
the L-R output on the back of the unit. Since this is the case, it is not
possible to "de-couple" the drum from the aux-in signal without doing
some warranty-voiding solder surgery... :(

However, it would seem a small mixer would do the job fairly easily and
inexpensively. Something like this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030629094710066069212244465510/g=home/search/detail/base_id/100612

In case the URL gets munged, just go to Musicians Friend and type
Behringer as the brand and "under $50.00" as the parameter. This mixer is
listed as follows (see attached picture):

------------------ CLIP ----------------
Eurorack UB502 5-Channel Compact Mixer
Small and mighty!

Features the same state-of-the-art Invisible Mic Pre-amp and
ultra-low-noise design (with the highest possible headroom) as its larger
brethren. One mono channel and 2 stereo channels with a 2-band EQ and
peak LED on the mono channel make it ideal for use with fixed audio
installations, keyboards, samplers, and computer applications. 5 balanced
high-headroom line inputs; main mix, headphone, and stereo tape outs;
assignable tape ins; and external power supply.

Features:

    * Ultra-low-noise design
    * One mono channel
    * 2 stereo channels
    * 2-band EQ and peak LED on the mono channel
    * 5 balanced high-headroom line inputs
    * 4580 operational amplifiers
    * Main mix, headphone, and stereo tape outs
    * Assignable tape ins
    * External power supply

The perfect little mixer to command your home studio. Order today.
------------------ /CLIP ---------------

The manual is here:

http://img2.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pdf/man/m_631239.pdf

This would be a low-cost solution to what you're trying to accomplish
and, based on the size of the thing, you might be able to perch it atop
the DTXpress module to make it easy to run from your kit.... :)

Vern

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zapaxe said:

> "BUMP"
>
> Hello...Is this thing on?:O
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm using the "DTXpress I" BTW...
>>
>> While playing along to a CD (or tape) as it's plugged into the AUX
>> IN of the DTXpress, is it possible to mute the CD's audio at the
> L/R
>> output's of this drum kit, but still hear the CD ONLY in the
>> headphones?
>>
>> This would especially be handy while using the DTXpress for
>> recording. If I'm sending a source into the AUX IN and trying to
>> record only the drums I end up getting the AUX IN signal source
>> recorded as well.
>>
>> I do however have a work around...Using an external mixer to send
> in
>> an AUX source signal into, the DTXpress's L/R out's & the I
> monitor
>> the mixer with phones...But it would sure make sence for the
>> DTXpress to be able to do that!
>>
>> Steve
>
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"LOL" Thanks Moose & Vern,

Just as I suspected. I would have thought that being able to keep an 
AUX IN source such as a CD from being sent out the DTXpress's main 
L/R outputs would have been a given in the design of this unit.

I originally found this the hard way while trying to record into my 
computer & the drum tracks contained the other instruments due to 
how I had it all routed. (had headphones in DTX, the computer DAW's 
monitors in AUX IN to the DTXpress)

I DO already have a small mixer that I use to work around that 
problem if I want to monitor a source and not have it sent out the 
L/R of the drum kit.

For ease while recording, mostly I monitor the DTXpress through the 
monitor out of my DAW as a mix using the ASIO mixer in my sound 
card's control panel to get the right volume blend during tracking.

I just wanted to check with you guy's to see if I was missing 
something.

Thanks a bunch, Steve



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> "BUMP" 
> 
> Hello...Is this thing on?:O
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm using the "DTXpress I" BTW...
> > 
> > While playing along to a CD (or tape) as it's plugged into the 
AUX 
> > IN of the DTXpress, is it possible to mute the CD's audio at the 
> L/R 
> > output's of this drum kit, but still hear the CD ONLY in the 
> > headphones?
> > 
> > This would especially be handy while using the DTXpress for 
> > recording. If I'm sending a source into the AUX IN and trying to 
> > record only the drums I end up getting the AUX IN signal source 
> > recorded as well.
> > 
> > I do however have a work around...Using an external mixer to 
send 

> in 
> > an AUX source signal into, the DTXpress's L/R out's & the I 
> monitor 
> > the mixer with phones...But it would sure make sence for the 
> > DTXpress to be able to do that! 
> > 
> > Steve