Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

The "two sounds" from one pad thing is just a function of the DTXpress
brain, rather than two distinct sounds it's more like two layers of one
sound.  If you look at the voice menu you will see an "01" in the top right
corner of most screens, you can change this between "01" and "02", each of
which is a separate voice which will be played simultaneously when you hit
the associated trigger.  You can control these further using the crossfade
option, and set each voices volume and decay levels, the upside of this is
that it lets you mix together two similar sounds to get a more complex and
realistic feel, like on a snare you can set two voices, one the snare the
other the rim shot, and set the crossfade so on moderate or soft strikes,
the snare voice is played, but on hard strikes the rimshot voice is played
instead, giving more control over your accents.

If you went out and bought a two zone pad, then yes it will plug straight
into any of the 1-8 jacks enabling you to access the "rim" trigger options
for that jack, these are just like the main trigger settings, letting you
assign voices and everything else, just as if the rim were a whole new
trigger pad.  Be careful of buying other manufacturers dual zone pads, and
particularly mesh head pads, as they may use a different technology, which
would mean that you had to plug it into jack 9/10 to get the rim to work,
not a big deal if you're only buying one pad, check it out before you buy.

Why are you going to add acoustic percussion to your kit!! doesn't that
defeat the object of an electronic set up?  Of course there's nothing to
stop you, and why not, but I can't help thinking you'd be better served
getting a T-bar trigger from Yamaha and plugging it into jack 9/10, more
expensive, but infinitely more flexible.
I can't help on the actual hardware question, I don't use the Yamaha rack,
but I guess Yamaha must sell add ons.

Good to see new members :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <groovinbill@...>
To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com>
Date: 14 September 2000 21:08

Subject: [DTXpress] Another New Owner


>
>Hi Guys-
>Great source for tips and tricks on the dtxpress.  Have had mine
>about 3 months and use it every day without annoying anyone (except
>for me with my poor skills).  I initially created a few new kits with
>different snare sounds and volume, etc. adjustments.  Unfortunately,
>I am not like the majority of other users - my technical skills stink
>when it comes to 100% understanding of all these functions and MIDI.
>
>I recall reading a post or two saying I can get two different sounds
>from the same pad.  Does that mean I can get a rim shot on the snare
>while retaining the snare sound?  Since these are single trigger pads
>I can't understand how that's possible.  Also, can I buy a Yamaha
>dual trigger pad and just plug it in my snare jack and then get the
>two sounds?  Last, I want to clamp a cowbell and wood block to the
>rack.  What hardware alternatives are there that fit and look like
>they belong there?
>
>Sorry for rehashing some beginner topics.
>
>Groovin Bill
>Havin' Fun & Over 40
>
>
>Community email addresses:
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>
>Shortcut URL to this page:
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>

I know this is an old post but there is a tidbit of information that 
I am interested in. The "T-Bar" that is referenced towards the end of 
the post, where can I get one of these? I can find no reference to it 
on the Yamaha web site (go figure) and my local dealer called their 
supplier and could not find out anything either. If someone has a 
picture or part number I am looking for a dual trigger piece to use 
for things like cowbell, woodblock, ect ...

Thanks again for all of the help over the past few months.

Scott


--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, "Sanctum" <sanctum@b...> wrote:
> The "two sounds" from one pad thing is just a function of the 
DTXpress
> brain, rather than two distinct sounds it's more like two layers of 
one
> sound.  If you look at the voice menu you will see an "01" in the 
top right
> corner of most screens, you can change this between "01" and "02", 
each of
> which is a separate voice which will be played simultaneously when 
you hit
> the associated trigger.  You can control these further using the 
crossfade
> option, and set each voices volume and decay levels, the upside of 
this is
> that it lets you mix together two similar sounds to get a more 
complex and
> realistic feel, like on a snare you can set two voices, one the 
snare the
> other the rim shot, and set the crossfade so on moderate or soft 
strikes,
> the snare voice is played, but on hard strikes the rimshot voice is 
played
> instead, giving more control over your accents.
> 
> If you went out and bought a two zone pad, then yes it will plug 
straight
> into any of the 1-8 jacks enabling you to access the "rim" trigger 
options
> for that jack, these are just like the main trigger settings, 
letting you
> assign voices and everything else, just as if the rim were a whole 
new
> trigger pad.  Be careful of buying other manufacturers dual zone 
pads, and
> particularly mesh head pads, as they may use a different 
technology, which
> would mean that you had to plug it into jack 9/10 to get the rim to 
work,
> not a big deal if you're only buying one pad, check it out before 
you buy.
> 
> Why are you going to add acoustic percussion to your kit!! doesn't 
that
> defeat the object of an electronic set up?  Of course there's 
nothing to
> stop you, and why not, but I can't help thinking you'd be better 
served
> getting a T-bar trigger from Yamaha and plugging it into jack 9/10, 
more
> expensive, but infinitely more flexible.
> I can't help on the actual hardware question, I don't use the 
Yamaha rack,
> but I guess Yamaha must sell add ons.
> 
> Good to see new members :)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill <groovinbill@y...>
> To: DTXpress@egroups.com <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> Date: 14 September 2000 21:08
> Subject: [DTXpress] Another New Owner
> 
> 
> >
> >Hi Guys-
> >Great source for tips and tricks on the dtxpress.  Have had mine
> >about 3 months and use it every day without annoying anyone (except
> >for me with my poor skills).  I initially created a few new kits 
with
> >different snare sounds and volume, etc. adjustments.  
Unfortunately,
> >I am not like the majority of other users - my technical skills 
stink
> >when it comes to 100% understanding of all these functions and 
MIDI.
> >
> >I recall reading a post or two saying I can get two different 
sounds
> >from the same pad.  Does that mean I can get a rim shot on the 
snare
> >while retaining the snare sound?  Since these are single trigger 
pads

> >I can't understand how that's possible.  Also, can I buy a Yamaha
> >dual trigger pad and just plug it in my snare jack and then get the
> >two sounds?  Last, I want to clamp a cowbell and wood block to the
> >rack.  What hardware alternatives are there that fit and look like
> >they belong there?
> >
> >Sorry for rehashing some beginner topics.
> >
> >Groovin Bill
> >Havin' Fun & Over 40
> >
> >
> >Community email addresses:
> >  Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> >  Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >  Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >  List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >
> >Shortcut URL to this page:
> >  http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >

Scott-
You can find this at musiciansfriend.com.
Follow the menu as follows:

Percussion - Electronic - Individual Pads
It's Item #4 - Yamaha BP80

Bill