RE: [DTXpress] Digest Number 983
2003-08-09 by Phill Drew
Hi there I am a very proud member of your silent majority. I may not contribute very often but I read all the posts and regularly look at the files. The wealth of information here is truly breathtaking and has got me out of many difficulties. A friend of mine is a Roland TD8 owner and he is quite envious of this resource as he has found great difficulty in finding something similar for his set up Keep up the good work guys and thanks a lot. Phill.
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1. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: Stephanie Ellison <deafdrummer@...>
2. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
3. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
4. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@...>
5. Cubase Parse File
From: "wayoutwest21" <wayoutwest21@...>
6. RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: rdamon@...
7. Re: TP80S ON DTXPRESS
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
8. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
9. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: Alex V <siren313@...>
10. RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "James Willard" <james@...>
11. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: psmperry@...
12. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
13. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "warrenpink" <warren.pinker@...>
14. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@...>
15. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "tom featherstone"
<could_people_stop_being_funny_please@...>
16. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
17. Parts for DtxpressII
From: "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@...>
18. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: Bob V <bovano1@...>
19. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
20. trigger question....again
From: "mtnbikn_va" <mtnbikn_va@...>
21. Re: trigger question....again
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
22. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: Quardlepleen <quardlepleen@...>
23. Re: Calling on all the Midi Gods out there
From: "mgk66219" <machinegunkelley@...>
24. RE: Digest Number 982
From: "Randy Fraker" <ramaseje@...>
25. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "jeffrey_chiu18" <jeffreychiu18@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:43:31 -0500
From: Stephanie Ellison <deafdrummer@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
On Fri August 8 2003 2:36 pm, liberatusvirus wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
You know me, right? ;-)
Stephanie
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:49:44 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Ellison <deafdrummer@a...>
wrote:
> You know me, right? ;-)
You bet, Steph. You aren't in the silent majority.
Ed
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:00:59 -0000
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Great Forum Guys!..
Thanks for all the help these past few days!
Got my first recording done today with the kit and it should be
available to listen too soon.
Billy
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:16:05 -0000
From: "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
The wealth of information here is a blessing.
Jun
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:06:44 -0000
From: "wayoutwest21" <wayoutwest21@...>
Subject: Cubase Parse File
Hi!
Is there anywhere I can download a Cubase Parse File for the
DTXpress II?
I have searched in vain :o(
Regards
/Simon
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:28:32 -0400
From: rdamon@...
Subject: RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
> Ron Harvest wrote: "However, I still own and love my DTxpress II, and
do
> think it's
> very possible that I'll go back and at least browse through the group
at
> many points in the future. So yes, I'd consider myself part of the
> "silent majority."
>
> Hope this is what you wanted to know,
>
> Ron Harvest
>
>
> Ron,
>
> Thank you for responding. I am truly sorry about you experiences here.
>
> I know how you feel. When I first got my DtxpressII's third module, I
was
> looking for a solution. How do you connect a barpad and assign left
pad to
> inc. and right pad to dec. and have it connected to the first module
only
> and have it send the midi control signal only (no sound) so that by
> hitting the bar pad I could inc/dec the kits in all three modules at
one
> time.
>
> There were no solutions presented. I then contact by email yamaha
support
> and never got a response back. I eventually realized that nobody here
had
> three dtxpressII modules tied to one kit and Yamaha had never
conceived of
> it either, so nobody could really give me answer.
>
> There are alot of knowledgable people here, but we ultimately only
have
> answers based on our own experimentation and from answer we have read
here
> or in other groups. As far as I am aware, nobody in this group works
for
> Yamaha or was actually involved in the development of the DTX drums,
so
> none here are absolute experts on these sets. (Man I sure wish we
could
> get someone from Yamaha's R&D/engineers that brought this stuff in
> existants as members here.)
>
> When someone asks a question in this group and I don't know the
answer, I
> will keep quite or ask a question back.
> If nobody responds, it maybe because we don't know the answer here
either
> and it's time to try and get Yamaha support involved.
>
> If I know the answer or where to go get it, I will generally wait a
few
> minutes (Ed's really quick at the keyboard) and then try to answer.
>
> I make all posts from where I work during the day, so I am absolutely
> guilty of not totally reading and comprehending questions, before I
> respond. I have a feeling many others here do the same.
>
> I hope you will continue to come back a visit, because sharing your
own
> experiences with the dtx with us is what this group is really about.
>
> OldGuyDrummer
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:29:09 -0000
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
Subject: Re: TP80S ON DTXPRESS
Wouldn't the 'pad type' hae to also be changed in the TRIGGER menu to
one that supports dual zone pads? i.e DTride or misc 2
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:31:28 -0000
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Count me in as a regular............
Stephen
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:40:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alex V <siren313@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Hi guys.
Yeah I read and post once in a while. I have a set
and I love it..
Alex
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:59:35 -0400
From: "James Willard" <james@...>
Subject: RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
I don't think your Reply is working as well as you wanted, because just
hitting "Reply" replying to the group, not the feedback@...
address. Nonetheless, here I am, mostly a silent member who's only owned
the DTXPress for less than a year, only speaking up when I think I can
truly help with something. Anyway, I read the emails every day, and I
occasionally visit the Files section.
James
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From: liberatusvirus [mailto:feedback@...]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:36 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
please read the fine print.
As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
maintain the various resources associated with the site. As a
result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
exclusively on our common interests.
One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
from their membership as possible.
Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
often do you read the group emails? Do you consult the archives,
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
your e-drums? Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future. You
represent our strength in numbers.
Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:03:20 EDT
From: psmperry@...
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
I think Grouch Marx said it. " I would never join a group that would
have me
for a member".
I have not tried the archives as of yet.
Count me in....perry
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:13:33 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "James Willard" <james@w...> wrote:
> I don't think your Reply is working as well as you wanted, because
just
> hitting "Reply" replying to the group, not the feedback@d...
> address. Nonetheless, here I am, mostly a silent member who's only
owned
> the DTXPress for less than a year, only speaking up when I think I
can
> truly help with something. Anyway, I read the emails every day, and
I
> occasionally visit the Files section.
James,
Well, you got that right. We set up an email address just to handle
the replies, not anticipating that Yahoo would add a CC to the whole
group. Well, no harm, I guess. We'll just soldier ahead. We were
always going to get the replies behind the scenes, but now everybody
gets to seem--not such a bad thing, I reckon.
By the way, many thanks for replying. Nice to know.
Ed
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:20:29 -0000
From: "warrenpink" <warren.pinker@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
I'm in.
I check the messages every day and put my 2c in from time to time.
Good work on cleaning up the spam.
Wal
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:37:57 -0000
From: "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Ronald,
The posts that you had mentioned were before my time, so I went back
and read through the posts.
Did you ever find a solution to the problem?
I recently started going back through the posts from this group
starting with post # 1. and MIDI seems to be one of the consist
problems/issues that is discussed and second is compatability with
other manufacturers equipment. I personally would not have known the
answer to your problem and do not have the equipment in order to
duplicate your problem. All of my recording is audio out to a mixer
and then to a digital recorder (Korg D1200CD). I don't do anything
with MIDI. I tried digging into but it just seem that the DTXpressII
module was going to be to frustrating to work through at least until
more people bought it and started using it. I just figured that I
would be in for a world of frustration.
Considering the DTxpressII was only about eight months old when you
ask the question and that most of the people probably don't have the
dtxpressii but another or earlier variant of it, I was amazed anybody
was able to jump in and tried to help. From the posts when this group
was formed and with the inception of the dtxpressI, it seem many
questions went unanswered, just because nobody had figured it out yet.
I know this is doubling of post on this issue, but the point I am
trying to make to everyone is, there are wide variety of people here,
some full time musicians, some part time ones and some that just put
on the headphones and pretend to be one when they are home alone. The
only real experts on the Yamaha equipment are the folks sitting
behind a desk or lab table in Japan and they don't ever stop by and
visit. If they do, we will probably never know. So if you ask a
question and don't get an answer or don't get an answer that helps
you out, then thats the time to go to the Yamaha support team. The
whole purpose of sending out the "special notice" was to see if we
had enough members to get Yamaha's attention and get someone from
there tech. support to consider us significant and important enough
to have a permanent presences here. Then most if not all of the
questions about the dtx equipment could get answered by the real
experts.
OldGuyDrummer
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:47:34 +0000
From: "tom featherstone"
<could_people_stop_being_funny_please@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
i use the message bored to search for answers and ask questions when
needed
- i hope to be able to answer questions as my experiance in useing the
kit
grows, i use the photos page to check ideas and again would like to add
to
it with a picture of my kit when i have somethign to add (at the moment
it
is just a standard kit - however i am making my own snare drum and have
purchased visu-lites)
from tom (fezzasus)
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:54:35 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tom featherstone"
<could_people_stop_being_funny_please@h...> wrote:
> i use the message bored to search for answers and ask questions
when needed
> - i hope to be able to answer questions as my experiance in useing
the kit
> grows, i use the photos page to check ideas and again would like to
add to
> it with a picture of my kit when i have somethign to add (at the
moment it
> is just a standard kit - however i am making my own snare drum and
have
> purchased visu-lites)
Thanks, Tom. How do you like the Visu-lites?
Ed
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:20:14 -0000
From: "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@...>
Subject: Parts for DtxpressII
All,
This is from post # 30 in November of 1999:
sanctum@... wrote:
"..... I was told you can buy spares direct from Yamaha!
That means you can get spare condensor circuits.
Ever seen a Yamaha dual trigger pad? - They look spookily similar to
the single trigger variety.
So I wonder, could you buy a condensor circuit, cut open a pad and
slip it in? a bit of re-wiring and your away. One fully operational
dual trigger pad."
After having opened up my the TP65 AND TP65S pads, other than the
three conductor fsr ribbon and the pcb card with a stereo jack and an
extra resistor the pads are seemingly indentical. Has anybody tried
to get individual components from Yamaha. It sure would be nice to
get some bits a pieces from them and "upgrade" some of my pads to
dual/three zone pads.
OldGuyDrummer
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob V <bovano1@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Count me in as a leech on the respective behind of the
group.
I bought my DTXpress about 1 year ago and enjoy just
playing it so much that I don't take the time to
"tweek" it all that much. I did create my own drum
set and have gotten the midi connection to my PC
working (have uploaded/downloaded sysex files).
I've posted questions a few times and appreciate the
responses. Please keep the group alive and thriving.
Afterall, a leech doesn't live long when the blood
stops flowing.
This group is a real asset to the owners of the Yamaha
DTXpress. I hope Yamaha recognizes that and acts
accordingly.
Just one constructive comment ..... OGD, are you
compensating for something with that huge drumset???
Just kidding of course. :^) Please don't ban me from
the group.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 00:19:09 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Bob V <bovano1@y...> wrote:
> Count me in as a leech on the respective behind of the
> group.
Now, there's a lovely image. We all come out ahead (or behind) on
that one. Thanks, Bob.
> Just one constructive comment ..... OGD, are you
> compensating for something with that huge drumset???
I can tell you that OGD's taller than Napoleon. Other than that I'm
sworn to secrecy.
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 01:05:14 -0000
From: "mtnbikn_va" <mtnbikn_va@...>
Subject: trigger question....again
When adding dual triggers to 9/10,do you use mono cords or stereo.The
manual says i need a stereo to mono patchx2, thats as far as it
goes.....thanks, the new guy to all this fancy electronic "stuff"...
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: trigger question....again
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "mtnbikn_va" <mtnbikn_va@y...> wrote:
> When adding dual triggers to 9/10,do you use mono cords or
stereo.The
> manual says i need a stereo to mono patchx2, thats as far as it
> goes.....thanks, the new guy to all this fancy electronic "stuff"...
When adding two mono pads, you'll need two mono cords and a stereo
splitter (TRS) to connect with input 9/10. For most dual-zone pads,
you'll need the same; many of them have a single output and come with
a TRS splitter with two female ends for the mono cables that would go
to 9/10. Don't connect a splitter with two stereo leads into the
module instead of a dual-mono TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) splitter; one
of the zones won't show up.
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 03:51:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Quardlepleen <quardlepleen@...>
Subject: Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
I read the group e-mails daily. I have posted a
question or two in the past, but I don't have a whole
lot to contribute yet. It's a good group, keep up the
good work!
--- liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress
Electronic
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
If you might like to add information about your level
of interest,
please read the fine print.
As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently
acquired three
new moderators after a long period without anyone to
police or
maintain the various resources associated with the
site. As a
result, we are now able to keep the engine running
smoothly without
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
distractions as spam and
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of
securing
emails and web postings from these undesirable
influences, but we are
looking forward to finishing this business so that we
can concentrate
exclusively on our common interests.
One important piece of information that has been
sorely lacking is
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or
so, who still
maintain interest in the group's messages and
archives, even though
they may not participate anymore, or never have
participated at all
(the group's silent majority). This information might
help us in our
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
other companies
with which we might establish a connection to our
mutual benefit) and
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
much benefit
from their membership as possible.
Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
part of the
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
don't) kindly reply
to this email with some statement of how you use your
membership: How
often do you read the group emails? Do you consult
the archives,
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
questions about
your e-drums? Collectively, you could play a large
role in how we
ultimately structure this group and how we envision
its future. You
represent our strength in numbers.
Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 03:40:34 -0000
From: "mgk66219" <machinegunkelley@...>
Subject: Re: Calling on all the Midi Gods out there
I think I found something that might just work and I thought I would
post a link to it in case anyone else out there might have an
interest in such an item.
This program is supposed to allow you to control another synth or a
another piece of software like cakewalk using your drums!
They have a demo of an e-drummer playing a song and changing the
tempo of the other intsruments by changing the speed he plays at.
Any way it looks pretty neat and will do allot of other things like
help you in recording and will even control a light system.
I downloaded it(30 day demo) but haven't played with it yet.
http://www.circular-logic.com/index.html
Mark
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "mgk66219" <machinegunkelley@h...>
wrote:
> What I would like to be able to do is load a midi file into my
module
> (DTXTREME) or another synth module and make it stay in time with
> what I am playing on the drums.
> I dont think the module has this feature built in but I was hoping
> maybe there was a box out there that could take a trigger send say
> from the kick drum and convert this into some kind of clock that a
> synth module would sync to.
>
> The reason I would want to do this is so I could have a keyboard
> player lay down the horns and strings to a song in midi format
that
> matches our version of a song. Then when I hit say a rim it starts
> the song and keeps in time with me and plays the horn parts at the
> right time in the song
>
> Thank you in advance for any advice you may have!
>
>
>
> Mark
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:40:49 -0500
From: "Randy Fraker" <ramaseje@...>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 982
Hey
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
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1. Unwanted posts
From: "leehunwick" <lhunwick@...>
2. Info for heavy hiters (follow up to my go to ask for help)
From: "fezzasus"
<could_people_stop_being_funny_please@...>
3. Do you agree?
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
4. Re: Unwanted posts
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
5. Re: Hi-Hat Function.
From: psmperry@...
6. Re: Do you agree?
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
7. Re: Hi-Hat Function.
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
8. Re: Do you agree?
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
9. RE: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
From: rdamon@...
10. Re: Merging over?
From: "Vernon Graner" <vern@...>
11. Re: Merging over?
From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...>
12. Re: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
From: psmperry@...
13. Re: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
From: psmperry@...
14. Layering
From: psmperry@...
15. Re: Layering
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
16. Recording done but...ut oh
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
17. Calling on all the Midi Gods out there
From: "mgk66219" <machinegunkelley@...>
18. RE: Re: Layering
From: rdamon@...
19. TP80S ON DTXPRESS
From: "schinappi1952" <schinappi1952@...>
20. Re: TP80S ON DTXPRESS
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
21. Re: Recording done but...ut oh
From: "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@...>
22. The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <feedback@...>
23. RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: rdamon@...
24. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: "liberatusvirus" <feedback@...>
25. Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
From: Ronald Rael Harvest <number6@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:12:58 -0000
From: "leehunwick" <lhunwick@...>
Subject: Unwanted posts
Hi Guys,
In my quest to get more info on the DM5 ive been offered i went to
the Alesis yahoo users forum and they are in undated with unwanted
messages as well .So it looks like somebody is hitting all yahoo
groups ,So is there not any way yahoo can deal with all this or is it
because it is open groups that are vunerable.
Lee.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:31:26 -0000
From: "fezzasus" <could_people_stop_being_funny_please@...>
Subject: Info for heavy hiters (follow up to my go to ask for help)
i have found that if you use the Auto set function with the pad
sensitivity (the adjustment on the pad itself) turned up all the way
then turn it down ONCE you have performed the auto set function
you should be able to have greater expression in you playting as
the hardest hits still register all the way but the softer are notably
quieter. as normal hits will but too quiet now you will also have to
increase the volume of the pad so it sounds normal with a
normal hit.
i do not recomend using the hard settings for this adjustment as
normal hits to the pad will be too quite.
i Hope this helps people
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:16:09 -0000
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
Subject: Do you agree?
Hey guys,
Just wondering if you think that the reverb presets on the kits, and
sounds are a bit too much?
Im planning on recording drums on a song that has gone from SC, to
Fla. to me and then back to SC.
I havent tried it yet but from just hearing the kit through head
phones and a pa, just seems too extreme.
Has anyone tried recording without changing a thing?
If so..is there a same on the site here?
Thanks,
Wm
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:11:33 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: Unwanted posts
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "leehunwick" <lhunwick@t...> wrote:
> So is there not any way yahoo can deal with all this or is it
> because it is open groups that are vunerable.
Lee,
Those with computer savvy among us say that Yahoo could and should do
a better job of blocking spam, but the heart of the problem is that
the groups who are having serious problems do not have moderators
dealing with it. Moderators have a few options for policing email
and/or membership that can reduce or completely elimininate
inappropriate posts. Look forward to your DM5 adventures.
Ed
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:14:26 EDT
From: psmperry@...
Subject: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
Nope, The footsplash does not work. I'll try another cable to see if it
helps. Thanks for the advise.
perry
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:22:05 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: Do you agree?
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "narrowgatedrummer"
<buoymaster@c...> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Just wondering if you think that the reverb presets on the kits,
and
> sounds are a bit too much?
Wm,
There are a bunch of recordings in the "Files" section of this site.
Some of them go back to 1999 or 2000, when the DTXpressI.1 was
current. If you like any of them, you could post public questions
here to the authors, or email them offline, about how they set up the
sound. To me the degree of reverb, and the kind, depend on
application. In my years fooling around with this unit, I've never
been able to come up with a rule of thumb, or necessarily a favorite
reverb setting. Everything seems to fly on its own terms.
Ed
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:31:00 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, psmperry@a... wrote:
> Nope, The footsplash does not work. I'll try another cable to see
if it
> helps.
Hey Perry, and anyone else,
I can't remember: Does footclose on the Xpress have its own
parameters in the voice menu? If the cable checks out okay, it's
possible, I guess, that something vital got deleted accidentally from
the settings (like the voice itself?). Also, is something amiss with
the common hi hat sensitivity setting in the voice menu, or the
offset/time settings in utility? If not, the pedal may have a
mechanical problem that keeps it from running its full course. I've
run into something similar, and have duplicated the problem
artificially, with another company's controller, by shortening the
throw, although when I do so, I don't get a closed hat stick sound.
Ed
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:38:58 -0000
From: "brown8700" <brown8700@...>
Subject: Re: Do you agree?
Wm:
Whenever I record with the DTX, turn the reverb for the individual
voice and for the kit itself to '0'. The engineer can always add
reverb a lot easier than he can take it away.
Stephen
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:52:42 -0400
From: rdamon@...
Subject: RE: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
> Hey Perry, and anyone else,
>
> I can't remember: Does footclose on the Xpress have its own
> parameters in the voice menu? If the cable checks out okay, it's
> possible, I guess, that something vital got deleted accidentally from
> the settings (like the voice itself?). Also, is something amiss with
> the common hi hat sensitivity setting in the voice menu, or the
> offset/time settings in utility? If not, the pedal may have a
> mechanical problem that keeps it from running its full course. I've
> run into something similar, and have duplicated the problem
> artificially, with another company's controller, by shortening the
> throw, although when I do so, I don't get a closed hat stick sound.
>
> Ed
>
The hihat has settings for:
pad open
pad close
rim open
rim close
foot close
foot splash
OGD
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:16:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Vernon Graner" <vern@...>
Subject: Re: Merging over?
Gary:
Do you have a new link for the pie-pan drum pad instructions? That was a
very good link for showing people how to do a simple, low-cost drum pad.
If there's a new link let me know so I can link to it. If there isn't,
would you consider providing the original HTML for me to place in on the
DTXPressiions.com website? :)
Vern
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Gary said:
> Hello all. I know I'm not on here alot, but I check in from time to
> time for helpful ideas and hints. However I was reading the last
> posts about merging over to the dtxpressions.com site. Is this a for
> real deal? If so then I'll just start posting over on that site. Oh
> by the way..I found a post on the dtxpressions site commenting on my
> DIY pie pan trigger design and it had a link to my OLD website. Its
> no longer in service. :(( I'm in the process of getting up a new band
> and all. I've made quite a few recordings with this dtxpress and it
> has paid for itself so much.
>
> Peace,
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> Community email addresses:
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:37:30 -0000
From: "hairytrigger" <artifax@...>
Subject: Re: Merging over?
Vern...
This is not a direct reply, but related.
I have made pads from just about anything that is durable enough to be
struck, and can be mounted on a stand.b Here is a link to my site. I
features some of the best - both asthetically, and functionally.
The box type is VERY easy to make, and Very cheap!!!
http://home.internetcds.com/~artifax/drumstuff
Scott
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Gary:
>
> Do you have a new link for the pie-pan drum pad instructions? That
was a
> very good link for showing people how to do a simple, low-cost drum
pad.
> If there's a new link let me know so I can link to it. If there
isn't,
> would you consider providing the original HTML for me to place in on
the
> DTXPressiions.com website? :)
>
> Vern
>
> --
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> vern@t... www.txis.com | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>
>
>
> Gary said:
> > Hello all. I know I'm not on here alot, but I check in from time
to
> > time for helpful ideas and hints. However I was reading the last
> > posts about merging over to the dtxpressions.com site. Is this a
for
> > real deal? If so then I'll just start posting over on that site.
Oh
> > by the way..I found a post on the dtxpressions site commenting on
my
> > DIY pie pan trigger design and it had a link to my OLD website.
Its
> > no longer in service. :(( I'm in the process of getting up a new
band
> > and all. I've made quite a few recordings with this dtxpress and
it
> > has paid for itself so much.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> > Community email addresses:
> > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
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> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:07:31 EDT
From: psmperry@...
Subject: Re: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
I,m pretty sure I had a hi-hat close parameter at one time. I'll do a
factory
reset since I don't have any user kits I really need to keep.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:09:42 EDT
From: psmperry@...
Subject: Re: Re: Hi-Hat Function.
Foot splash isn't working. I'll also do a factory reset if the cable is
not
te problem.
Thanks again...perry
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:14:27 EDT
From: psmperry@...
Subject: Layering
I have had my set almost a year now (I love guitar Centers no interest
or
payments for a year plan) and I just starting to get into layering. Any
tips
or
suggestions? Any combinations that have worked well, especially for the
cymbals?
perry
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:55:12 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: Layering
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, psmperry@a... wrote:
> I just starting to get into layering. Any tips or
> suggestions? Any combinations that have worked well, especially for
the cymbals?
Perry,
You didn't ask about crossfading, but I saved an email that I once
wrote to someone about it that might come in handy, as one person's
view. I've read some incredibly imaginative posts about layering;
I'll leave that aspect in more capable hands. But just in case you
start considering crossfading, here's 2 cents:
Crossfading can be really frustrating. One way to manage it on a
snare is to crossfade between a snare sound and a complementary rim
sound. That way, you don't have to mess too much with tuning, decay,
et al, since the rim sound itself constitutes enough of a difference.
Unfortunately, the transition on the DTXPU is a little abrupt
regardless of which setting you use; you may end up getting more
rimshot than you want. For me, a higher-number setting works best.
But I find that unless the sounds are similar to begin with, the
transition can sound awkward, inclining you back to a single voice.
Some people use crossfade to approximate a dual zone pad, elevating
the gain on V1 and lowering it on V2 so that both voices sound at
approximately the same level, despite V2's higher velocity.
What I prefer is to crossfade using the same sound in order to mimic
the dynamics of an acoustic drum. In this technique, V1 is the same
as V2 but with less decay, a reduced frequency cutoff, and perhaps a
half-step-lower tuning. When V2 kicks in at the higher velocity, it
has some of the tonal qualities of an acoustic snare or tom when it
is struck harder.
To me, cymbals don't cut it crossfaded. But the ride voices in the
Yamulka module certainly can use some help; layering can give them
some punch (I prefer layering rides with sounds from the same family,
just to create more body, but since I switched to Visu-lites, I've
stuck to single layers). I like the crashes the way they are (at
least three or four of them), without further tinkering, but that's
one person's opinion. Again, some people crossfade cymbals to get a
dual-zone effect. Because, by a happy coincidence, the Yam cymbals
get louder naturally near the "bell" area, a V2 programmed as a bell
sound will kick in when the stick approaches the wing nut, without
any change in velocity, as if a real bell were there.
If you try these or any other experiments, let me know how they work
for you. As daunting as trying to integrate two voices can be, some
modules and MIDI devices give you four or more slots to fill, with
the further option of alternating the sounds. The mathematics are
staggering.
Ed
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:02:39 -0000
From: "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@...>
Subject: Recording done but...ut oh
K guys,
I just tweeked a custom kit and took one of our songs on the Korg
1600 and recorded it to a virtual track.
Now, listening back to it, I have a few things I dont really like.
Toms are too hot, and cymbals too brite.
My question is this....
If I record to the DTX and to the korg...can I go back and tweek the
set now that I have a good take within the "Custom kit"..play it
back and record it to the Korg.
Another words. I just want to change certian levels with in the kit
on the pattern i just recorded and not do another take.
Making any sense?
Billy
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:24:35 -0000
From: "mgk66219" <machinegunkelley@...>
Subject: Calling on all the Midi Gods out there
What I would like to be able to do is load a midi file into my module
(DTXTREME) or another synth module and make it stay in time with
what I am playing on the drums.
I dont think the module has this feature built in but I was hoping
maybe there was a box out there that could take a trigger send say
from the kick drum and convert this into some kind of clock that a
synth module would sync to.
The reason I would want to do this is so I could have a keyboard
player lay down the horns and strings to a song in midi format that
matches our version of a song. Then when I hit say a rim it starts
the song and keeps in time with me and plays the horn parts at the
right time in the song
Thank you in advance for any advice you may have!
Mark
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:53:33 -0400
From: rdamon@...
Subject: RE: Re: Layering
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, psmperry@a... wrote:
> > I just starting to get into layering. Any tips or
> > suggestions? Any combinations that have worked well, especially for
> the cymbals?
>
> Perry,
>
> One of my favorite layering combinations is for my floor tom, I use a
low
> tom voice with just a touch of a fat bass drum on v2. Nice resonant
thump.
> The key is let your imagination loose and try strange combinations. I
have
> user kits 80/81 setup just for experimenting with layering/crossfading
on
> various pads, so that I don't accidentally mess up a "good" kit.
Something
> like a T\10 -GM1 (detuned 1or 2 notes down, volume 75) + K\18(volume
45),
> just going from memory, so don't quote me. By experimenting you can
come
> up with some pretty cruddy sounds, but every now an thing something
will
> just click, and wow!
>
It's a good thing most of what do is done with headphones on, or the
wife
would have shot me or the drum set by now.
> OGD
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:58:02 -0000
From: "schinappi1952" <schinappi1952@...>
Subject: TP80S ON DTXPRESS
Hello all,
I'm new to the group and have a question. I replaced my
TP80 with a TP80S. My Dtxpress is version 1. I have the correct
stereo cable for the TP80S and want to know what settings/inputs are
needed to get the dual zone feature to work. I searched the posts but
can't seem to find anything. Can someone point me in the right
direction?
SC
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:49:48 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...>
Subject: Re: TP80S ON DTXPRESS
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "schinappi1952" <schinappi1952@y...>
wrote:
> I'm new to the group and have a question. I replaced my
> TP80 with a TP80S. My Dtxpress is version 1. I have the correct
> stereo cable for the TP80S and want to know what settings/inputs
are
> needed to get the dual zone feature to work.
Hi SC,
First of all, welcome. Nice to have you with us. In technical e-drum
talk, the TP80S is known as a stereo cymbal rather than a dual-zone.
The designation is almost a total misnomer, but some terminological
distinction was necessary for it. Stereo triggers are primarily made
of gum rubbber (as opposed to woven heads for drums and acrylic or
metal for cymbals). They contain two or three pickups--a piezo (the
main one) and, in the TP80S' case, a second one on the rim (termed an
FSR). Stereo triggers allow two (or three, for the TP65S) sounds
through a single input with a stereo cable. A dual-zone pad requires
two inputs, like 9/10 (accessed through one jack by a TRS splitter),
or any other two inputs (either "stereo" or mono) with two mono
cables. Pads like the TP80S will only work as mono pads through input
9/10, no matter how you try to connect them, because of their
internal electronics. I think that any of inputs 1-8 will provide two
voices with a stereo pad.
To use the rim trigger on the DTXpressI--say, for the default snare
input--acroll to input 2 on the voice menu and then to rim 2, or if
your module is set up this way, hit the rim while in the voice menu
to get rim 2 on the screen. Then you can set the new voice parameters
for it (Yamaha may already have loaded their own).
Ed
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:06:10 -0000
From: "jtatsuoka" <jtatsuoka@...>
Subject: Re: Recording done but...ut oh
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "narrowgatedrummer" <buoymaster@c...>
wrote:
> K guys,
> I just tweeked a custom kit and took one of our songs on the Korg
> 1600 and recorded it to a virtual track.
> Now, listening back to it, I have a few things I dont really like.
> Toms are too hot, and cymbals too brite.
> My question is this....
> If I record to the DTX and to the korg...can I go back and tweek the
> set now that I have a good take within the "Custom kit"..play it
> back and record it to the Korg.
> Another words. I just want to change certian levels with in the kit
> on the pattern i just recorded and not do another take.
> Making any sense?
> Billy
As long as you are sync'ed up w/MIDI.
Plug a MIDI cable into the 'out' of the Korg and 'in' of the module.
Make
sure the Korg is sending MIDI control messages. If the
DTXpress is in 'auto' or 'ext' sync mode, you should be able to hit
play
on the 1600 and play the seq on the DTXpress. As long as you
don't commit your performance to 'tape' you can change the levels and
sounds of each drum.
Jun
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:36:09 -0000
From: "liberatusvirus" <feedback@...>
Subject: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
please read the fine print.
As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
maintain the various resources associated with the site. As a
result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
exclusively on our common interests.
One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
from their membership as possible.
Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
often do you read the group emails? Do you consult the archives,
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
your e-drums? Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future. You
represent our strength in numbers.
Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:50:22 -0400
From: rdamon@...
Subject: RE: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liberatusvirus [SMTP:feedback@...]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:36 PM
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> Subject: [DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
>
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
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> If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
> please read the fine print.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
> maintain the various resources associated with the site. As a
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
> exclusively on our common interests.
>
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
> from their membership as possible.
>
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
> often do you read the group emails? Do you consult the archives,
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
> your e-drums? Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future. You
> represent our strength in numbers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
>
>
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