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DTXpress drum map editing software

DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by buggoutbill

Hey all,

Does there exist any software to edit a DTX(press) drum kit on the 
PC? For example, you download the sysex, then open it in a program to 
edit it on the PC, save it, then send it back.

If it doesn't exist, would anyone be interested in such a program? Or 
do you feel it is easy enough to edit on the DTX(press) and such a 
program would be useless/not used/not needed.

Bill

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by Rob

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "buggoutbill" <wnofi@e...> wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Does there exist any software to edit a DTX(press) drum kit on the 
> PC? For example, you download the sysex, then open it in a program 
to 
> edit it on the PC, save it, then send it back.
> 
> If it doesn't exist, would anyone be interested in such a program? 
Or 
> do you feel it is easy enough to edit on the DTX(press) and such a 
> program would be useless/not used/not needed.
> 
> Bill

Yeah Bill, knock out that program and put it up on kazza. 
Just kiddin
That would be pretty cool though to edit on the pc.

RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Bill,

This comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in Sept. of 2002, I
asked the same question and the answer then, as it is now is no.

I personnally would love to see a program in which the kits could be upload,
edited and downloaded. 

I think those that have the software programming capabilities to do it,
don't have the time and those folks that have the time to do it, don't have
the programming skills. So this project has never been tackled.  

So, we are still hoping someone will come along and create one.

OGD 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	buggoutbill [SMTP:wnofi@...]
> Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 11:19 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Does there exist any software to edit a DTX(press) drum kit on the 
> PC? For example, you download the sysex, then open it in a program to 
> edit it on the PC, save it, then send it back.
> 
> If it doesn't exist, would anyone be interested in such a program? Or 
> do you feel it is easy enough to edit on the DTX(press) and such a 
> program would be useless/not used/not needed.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by Matt Pobursky

I actually looked at doing this a little over a year ago. The big
problem I ran into was that Yamaha doesn't publish it's data
communications format specification. If they did, I think the user base
programs would start to flow. This is what stopped me -- I had no
desire to beg/harrass/plead with Yamaha for the specification nor the
inclination to sit with a data analyzer for hours on end to reverse
engineer it.

My hopes are that Yamaha will make this information available, in my
opinion it would only help strengthen their product line by making more
useful 3rd party software available to all users.

Matt Pobursky
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:46:47 -0500, rdamon@... wrote:
>\ufffdBill,
>\ufffd
>\ufffdThis comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in Sept. of
>\ufffd2002, I asked the same question and the answer then, as it is now is
>\ufffdno.
>\ufffd
>\ufffd
>\ufffdI personnally would love to see a program in which the kits could be
>\ufffdupload, edited and downloaded.
>\ufffd
>\ufffdI think those that have the software programming capabilities to do
>\ufffdit, don't have the time and those folks that have the time to do it,
>\ufffddon't have the programming skills. So this project has never been
>\ufffdtackled. \ufffd
>\ufffd
>\ufffdSo, we are still hoping someone will come along and create one.

RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Matt, 

I emailed Yamaha/Japan this morning concerning this issue. I will let you
know their response.
If we can get this info. are you still willing to tackle this?


OGD 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Matt Pobursky [SMTP:ccsuser@...]
> Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 2:19 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software
> 
> I actually looked at doing this a little over a year ago. The big
> problem I ran into was that Yamaha doesn't publish it's data
> communications format specification. If they did, I think the user base
> programs would start to flow. This is what stopped me -- I had no
> desire to beg/harrass/plead with Yamaha for the specification nor the
> inclination to sit with a data analyzer for hours on end to reverse
> engineer it.
> 
> My hopes are that Yamaha will make this information available, in my
> opinion it would only help strengthen their product line by making more
> useful 3rd party software available to all users.
> 
> Matt Pobursky
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:46:47 -0500, rdamon@... wrote:
> >  Bill,
> > 
> >  This comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in Sept. of
> >  2002, I asked the same question and the answer then, as it is now is
> >  no.
> > 
> > 
> >  I personnally would love to see a program in which the kits could be
> >  upload, edited and downloaded.
> > 
> >  I think those that have the software programming capabilities to do
> >  it, don't have the time and those folks that have the time to do it,
> >  don't have the programming skills. So this project has never been
> >  tackled.  
> > 
> >  So, we are still hoping someone will come along and create one.
> 
> 
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RE: [DTXpress] DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by Matt Pobursky

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:25:52 -0500, rdamon@... wrote:
>\ufffdMatt,
>\ufffd
>\ufffdI emailed Yamaha/Japan this morning concerning this issue. I will let
>\ufffdyou know their response.
>\ufffdIf we can get this info. are you still willing to tackle this?

I might be. I'm pretty busy with some consulting projects right now, 
but I expect that to ease up in a month or so. At this point I can't
make any promises... ;-) 

But I'm sure there are others who would take this and run with it -- I
know there are many other programmers in both the Yamaha groups that
have expressed interest.

BTW, I actually have a DTXtreme module so I'd love the data
transfer/format specifications for it too. I'm guessing the DTXpress
and DTXtreme modules are similar, but slightly different (owing to the
different ranges of sounds/songs/layering etc.) 

I've been thinking of looking for a used DTXpress module just to have 
one around and I'd need one for testing any software I'd write. Ideally
someone who has access to both modules could probably write an
editor/storage manager software package that could work with all Yamaha
modules.

Matt

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by buggoutbill

Matt,

What about editing the SYSEX file after it has been received from 
the DTXpress? Instead of editing it directly right on the brain. 
Would that be easier?

Bill

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> wrote:
> I actually looked at doing this a little over a year ago. The big
> problem I ran into was that Yamaha doesn't publish it's data
> communications format specification. If they did, I think the user 
base
> programs would start to flow. This is what stopped me -- I had no
> desire to beg/harrass/plead with Yamaha for the specification nor 
the
> inclination to sit with a data analyzer for hours on end to reverse
> engineer it.
> 
> My hopes are that Yamaha will make this information available, in 
my
> opinion it would only help strengthen their product line by making 
more
> useful 3rd party software available to all users.
> 
> Matt Pobursky
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:46:47 -0500, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > Bill,
> > 
> > This comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in 
Sept. of
> > 2002, I asked the same question and the answer then, as it is 
now is
> > no.
> > 
> > 
> > I personnally would love to see a program in which the kits 
could be
> > upload, edited and downloaded.
> > 
> > I think those that have the software programming capabilities to 
do
> > it, don't have the time and those folks that have the time to do 
it,
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > don't have the programming skills. So this project has never been
> > tackled.  
> > 
> > So, we are still hoping someone will come along and create one.

RE: [DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Bill,

I don't think the intent was to edit the data remotely from a PC. The idea
was to download the user drum kit/settings from the module into a PC and
then have a spreadsheet or similar style format that you could easily change
items either globally or individually and then save it on the PC for safe
keeping and then upload it back into the module.

As I noted in my email to Yamaha, for me with three modules and a four on
it's way, it would be a godsend, when setting up new kits, to have a utility
like this.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	buggoutbill [SMTP:wnofi@...]
> Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 3:58 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> 
> Matt,
> 
> What about editing the SYSEX file after it has been received from 
> the DTXpress? Instead of editing it directly right on the brain. 
> Would that be easier?
> 
> Bill
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> wrote:
> > I actually looked at doing this a little over a year ago. The big
> > problem I ran into was that Yamaha doesn't publish it's data
> > communications format specification. If they did, I think the user 
> base
> > programs would start to flow. This is what stopped me -- I had no
> > desire to beg/harrass/plead with Yamaha for the specification nor 
> the
> > inclination to sit with a data analyzer for hours on end to reverse
> > engineer it.
> > 
> > My hopes are that Yamaha will make this information available, in 
> my
> > opinion it would only help strengthen their product line by making 
> more
> > useful 3rd party software available to all users.
> > 
> > Matt Pobursky
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:46:47 -0500, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > >  Bill,
> > > 
> > >  This comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in 
> Sept. of
> > >  2002, I asked the same question and the answer then, as it is 
> now is
> > >  no.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  I personnally would love to see a program in which the kits 
> could be
> > >  upload, edited and downloaded.
> > > 
> > >  I think those that have the software programming capabilities to 
> do
> > >  it, don't have the time and those folks that have the time to do 
> it,
> > >  don't have the programming skills. So this project has never been
> > >  tackled.  
> > > 
> > >  So, we are still hoping someone will come along and create one.
> 
> 
> 
> Community email addresses:
>    Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>    Subscribe:     DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-12 by buggoutbill

OGD,

That's the lines I was looking down. Downloading the sysex (using 
DTXchange for example), edit it, then send it back. Sounds easy 
enough, right? :)

It's been a while since I did any programming, but I'm willing to 
give it a shot. Maybe two or three (or more) of us can put our heads 
together and figure something out. I think Matt mentioned he might 
have some time in the near future.

And any help from Yamaha would be great.

Bill


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> I don't think the intent was to edit the data remotely from a PC. 
The idea
> was to download the user drum kit/settings from the module into a 
PC and
> then have a spreadsheet or similar style format that you could 
easily change
> items either globally or individually and then save it on the PC 
for safe
> keeping and then upload it back into the module.
> 
> As I noted in my email to Yamaha, for me with three modules and a 
four on
> it's way, it would be a godsend, when setting up new kits, to have 
a utility
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> like this.
> 
> OGD
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	buggoutbill [SMTP:wnofi@e...]
> > Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 3:58 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> > 
> > Matt,
> > 
> > What about editing the SYSEX file after it has been received from 
> > the DTXpress? Instead of editing it directly right on the brain. 
> > Would that be easier?
> > 
> > Bill
> >

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-13 by ozteevan

Hi guys

Please check out the file in the group's Files section called 
"DTXport.doc".

It describes a program that I have already written that goes most of 
the way to solving this problem. I wrote it to work with my DTXv2 but 
it could be converted/extended to be aware of the other module 
formats. (BTW all the module brands have different formats - I have 
not checked between module versions though)

If someone wants to take this further then pleaae drop me a line as it 
has not progressed in the last year as I felt there was no interest in 
such a utility.

Roger

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-13 by the_kin_doc

I wouldn't mind having a go at an editor if I could get the info but 
I don't have the time to reverse engineer it.  I have contacted 
Yamaha Australia and asked for the DTXpressII sysex but they said 
they don't have it and they doubt that Japan would give it to 
anyone.  This is a change of policy since they freely gave me sysex 
info in the past and often published it in the user manuals.

The unit understands Parameter Change sysex so it is possible to 
edit a kit without sysex dumps but the user manual doesn't publish 
details like the parameter numbers.

If anyone manages to get hold of the info I would love a copy.

Peter


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> I don't think the intent was to edit the data remotely from a PC. 
The idea
> was to download the user drum kit/settings from the module into a 
PC and
> then have a spreadsheet or similar style format that you could 
easily change
> items either globally or individually and then save it on the PC 
for safe
> keeping and then upload it back into the module.
> 
> As I noted in my email to Yamaha, for me with three modules and a 
four on
> it's way, it would be a godsend, when setting up new kits, to have 
a utility
> like this.
> 
> OGD
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	buggoutbill [SMTP:wnofi@e...]
> > Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 3:58 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> > 
> > Matt,
> > 
> > What about editing the SYSEX file after it has been received 
from 
> > the DTXpress? Instead of editing it directly right on the brain. 
> > Would that be easier?
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> 
wrote:
> > > I actually looked at doing this a little over a year ago. The 
big
> > > problem I ran into was that Yamaha doesn't publish it's data
> > > communications format specification. If they did, I think the 
user 
> > base
> > > programs would start to flow. This is what stopped me -- I had 
no
> > > desire to beg/harrass/plead with Yamaha for the specification 
nor 
> > the
> > > inclination to sit with a data analyzer for hours on end to 
reverse
> > > engineer it.
> > > 
> > > My hopes are that Yamaha will make this information available, 
in 
> > my
> > > opinion it would only help strengthen their product line by 
making 
> > more
> > > useful 3rd party software available to all users.
> > > 
> > > Matt Pobursky
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:46:47 -0500, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > > >  Bill,
> > > > 
> > > >  This comes up from time to time. When I first got my kit in 
> > Sept. of
> > > >  2002, I asked the same question and the answer then, as it 
is 
> > now is
> > > >  no.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  I personnally would love to see a program in which the kits 
> > could be
> > > >  upload, edited and downloaded.
> > > > 
> > > >  I think those that have the software programming 
capabilities to 
> > do
> > > >  it, don't have the time and those folks that have the time 
to do 
> > it,
> > > >  don't have the programming skills. So this project has 
never been
> > > >  tackled.  
> > > > 
> > > >  So, we are still hoping someone will come along and create 
one.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Community email addresses:
> >    Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >    Subscribe:     DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> >    List owner:    DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> >    <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress>
> > 
> > Alternate DTXpress site:
> >    <http://www.dtxpressions.com> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: [DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-13 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Peter,

Great news!!

Here is the response from Yamaha Japan:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
CC: Jim Haler

Hello,

Thank you for your proposal.

Actually we do have a convert tool of Sysex(MIDI bulk) data and
CSV(Spread sheet). But it is just only for internal development use so
we don't have a plan to be a public.
Also we don't have a plan to produce such kind of software right now.

But data format of MIDI sysex (bulk data, parameter change) is not a secret
 and we had been send a document for individual requests sinse DTXPRESS.

So If You or your friends want to know about data format, please request us.

Best regards,

-- 
So Tanaka
---------------------------------------------------------------------

I think it is just a matter of asking Jim Haler now exactly what info. you
will need and we will be on our way.

OGD



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	the_kin_doc [SMTP:softhouse@...]
> Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 10:40 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> 
> I wouldn't mind having a go at an editor if I could get the info but 
> I don't have the time to reverse engineer it.  I have contacted 
> Yamaha Australia and asked for the DTXpressII sysex but they said 
> they don't have it and they doubt that Japan would give it to 
> anyone.  This is a change of policy since they freely gave me sysex 
> info in the past and often published it in the user manuals.
> 
> The unit understands Parameter Change sysex so it is possible to 
> edit a kit without sysex dumps but the user manual doesn't publish 
> details like the parameter numbers.
> 
> If anyone manages to get hold of the info I would love a copy.
> 
> Peter
> 
 
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Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-13 by buggoutbill

That sounds really cool!
Any chance they would send us the converter software? :)
Only kidding, just knowing the format would be a big help.

Bill

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Great news!!
> 
> Here is the response from Yamaha Japan:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> CC: Jim Haler
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thank you for your proposal.
> 
> Actually we do have a convert tool of Sysex(MIDI bulk) data and
> CSV(Spread sheet). But it is just only for internal development 
use so
> we don't have a plan to be a public.
> Also we don't have a plan to produce such kind of software right 
now.
> 
> But data format of MIDI sysex (bulk data, parameter change) is not 
a secret
>  and we had been send a document for individual requests sinse 
DTXPRESS.
> 
> So If You or your friends want to know about data format, please 
request us.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -- 
> So Tanaka
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> 
> I think it is just a matter of asking Jim Haler now exactly what 
info. you
> will need and we will be on our way.
> 
> OGD
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	the_kin_doc [SMTP:softhouse@o...]
> > Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 10:40 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> > 
> > I wouldn't mind having a go at an editor if I could get the info 
but 
> > I don't have the time to reverse engineer it.  I have contacted 
> > Yamaha Australia and asked for the DTXpressII sysex but they 
said 
> > they don't have it and they doubt that Japan would give it to 
> > anyone.  This is a change of policy since they freely gave me 
sysex 
> > info in the past and often published it in the user manuals.
> > 
> > The unit understands Parameter Change sysex so it is possible to 
> > edit a kit without sysex dumps but the user manual doesn't 
publish 
> > details like the parameter numbers.
> > 
> > If anyone manages to get hold of the info I would love a copy.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
>  
> 
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Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-13 by the_kin_doc

Great!  If someone can get me the sysex format info and the 
parameter change details, or let me know who to contact to get the 
info, I'll thrash out the details and see what can be done.

Peter

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Great news!!
> 
> Here is the response from Yamaha Japan:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> CC: Jim Haler
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thank you for your proposal.
> 
> Actually we do have a convert tool of Sysex(MIDI bulk) data and
> CSV(Spread sheet). But it is just only for internal development 
use so
> we don't have a plan to be a public.
> Also we don't have a plan to produce such kind of software right 
now.
> 
> But data format of MIDI sysex (bulk data, parameter change) is not 
a secret
>  and we had been send a document for individual requests sinse 
DTXPRESS.
> 
> So If You or your friends want to know about data format, please 
request us.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -- 
> So Tanaka
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> 
> I think it is just a matter of asking Jim Haler now exactly what 
info. you
> will need and we will be on our way.
> 
> OGD
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	the_kin_doc [SMTP:softhouse@o...]
> > Sent:	Monday, January 12, 2004 10:40 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DTXpress drum map editing software
> > 
> > I wouldn't mind having a go at an editor if I could get the info 
but 
> > I don't have the time to reverse engineer it.  I have contacted 
> > Yamaha Australia and asked for the DTXpressII sysex but they 
said 
> > they don't have it and they doubt that Japan would give it to 
> > anyone.  This is a change of policy since they freely gave me 
sysex 
> > info in the past and often published it in the user manuals.
> > 
> > The unit understands Parameter Change sysex so it is possible to 
> > edit a kit without sysex dumps but the user manual doesn't 
publish 
> > details like the parameter numbers.
> > 
> > If anyone manages to get hold of the info I would love a copy.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
>  
> 
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Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-17 by the_kin_doc

I have had no luck getting through to Yamaha on this issue.  I got 
an email back from Yamaha US (possibly automated) saying they won't 
deal with me here in Australia and that I should contact the local 
Yamaha but, as I said earlier, they say they can't get the sysex 
info for me.

Does anyone have the email address for So Tanaka (who apparently 
responded to the previous inquiry from someone on this list) so I 
can give him a try?

Thanks,

Peter


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Great news!!
> 
> Here is the response from Yamaha Japan:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> CC: Jim Haler
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thank you for your proposal.
> 
> Actually we do have a convert tool of Sysex(MIDI bulk) data and
> CSV(Spread sheet). But it is just only for internal development 
use so
> we don't have a plan to be a public.
> Also we don't have a plan to produce such kind of software right 
now.
> 
> But data format of MIDI sysex (bulk data, parameter change) is not 
a secret
>  and we had been send a document for individual requests sinse 
DTXPRESS.
> 
> So If You or your friends want to know about data format, please 
request us.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -- 
> So Tanaka
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-17 by oldguydrummer

Peter,

I will send off an email to Jim Haler, referencing my email to So 
Tanaka, but my guess is with NAMM, we won't get a response until 
later in the week. 

Since So did not send it with his response to me, I just assumed 
that he was expecting us to go through Jim Haler.

I will pass on to you wantever they send me.

I will also be sending an email to So asking him a few questions, 
such as when the Dtxtreme IIS manual will be available for download 
and a few other questions that I have. If anybody else has any 
specific questions about the dtxpress III or the dtxtreme IIS, I 
will include them in my email to him. I figured I would send it out 
Sunday night, just in case some of the folks at NAMM, came back with 
answers to mine questions first.

OGD

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "the_kin_doc" <softhouse@o...> 
wrote:
> I have had no luck getting through to Yamaha on this issue.  I got 
> an email back from Yamaha US (possibly automated) saying they 
won't 
> deal with me here in Australia and that I should contact the local 
> Yamaha but, as I said earlier, they say they can't get the sysex 
> info for me.
> 
> Does anyone have the email address for So Tanaka (who apparently 
> responded to the previous inquiry from someone on this list) so I 
> can give him a try?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > Peter,
> > 
> > Great news!!
> > 
> > Here is the response from Yamaha Japan:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --
> > CC: Jim Haler
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Thank you for your proposal.
> > 
> > Actually we do have a convert tool of Sysex(MIDI bulk) data and
> > CSV(Spread sheet). But it is just only for internal development 
> use so
> > we don't have a plan to be a public.
> > Also we don't have a plan to produce such kind of software right 
> now.
> > 
> > But data format of MIDI sysex (bulk data, parameter change) is 
not 
> a secret
> >  and we had been send a document for individual requests sinse 
> DTXPRESS.
> > 
> > So If You or your friends want to know about data format, please 
> request us.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > -- 
> > So Tanaka
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-17 by oldguydrummer

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "the_kin_doc" <softhouse@o...> 
wrote:

> Does anyone have the email address for So Tanaka (who apparently 
> responded to the previous inquiry from someone on this list) so I 
> can give him a try?

Peter,

By the way, I was the one that contact Jim and So. I have several 
email accounts that pass through with my posts.

OldGuyDrummer = OGD = Dtxpress Moderator = rdamon@mck...


OGD

Re: DTXpress drum map editing software

2004-01-17 by the_kin_doc

Thanks,

I assume Jim Haler is someone from Yamaha US?  The guy I spoke to at 
Yamaha here was friendly and reasonably helpful but he seemed so 
convinced that Japan would not release the sysex info he wasn't even 
prepared to try.

I look forward to getting the info.

Cheers,

Peter


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
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> Peter,
> 
> I will send off an email to Jim Haler, referencing my email to So 
> Tanaka, but my guess is with NAMM, we won't get a response until 
> later in the week. 
> 
> Since So did not send it with his response to me, I just assumed 
> that he was expecting us to go through Jim Haler.
>

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