Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Thanks to all that responded and gave advice. Much appreciated. 
Yesterday, I came home with a Behringer BX600 60watt bass amp. The 
fellow in the music store assured me that I would be happy with it or 
I could return it, and so far I am. Plenty of volume for my use and 
produces high end and bass equally as well without distortion.

Anyone else have an opinion on this amp?

Ken

On Sat February 7 2004 8:51 am, boomer535 wrote:
> Thanks to all that responded and gave advice. Much appreciated.
> Yesterday, I came home with a Behringer BX600 60watt bass amp. The
> fellow in the music store assured me that I would be happy with it or
> I could return it, and so far I am. Plenty of volume for my use and
> produces high end and bass equally as well without distortion.

My question is, how can it produce any upper mids or even highs?  What it can 
produce is usually depends on the size of the speaker (diameter), how much 
power, how well-controlled that power is, etc.

I have a Beringer KX-1200 keyboard amp that I bought for about $260, and I 
really like it!  It's one of the few 3-way amps out there.

Stephanie

As a bass amp, does it actually have enough high frequency response to
make realistic cymbal sounds? I haven't heard it but I would imagine a
Bass amp would top out at about 6khz to 8 khz... To get close to
reasonable cymbal sounds, I would guess you'd need at least
10khz-15khz... Do you know what the frequency response the amp you got
has?

Vern

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boomer535 said:

> Thanks to all that responded and gave advice. Much appreciated.
> Yesterday, I came home with a Behringer BX600 60watt bass amp. The
> fellow in the music store assured me that I would be happy with it or
> I could return it, and so far I am. Plenty of volume for my use and
> produces high end and bass equally as well without distortion.
>
> Anyone else have an opinion on this amp?
>
> Ken
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> As a bass amp, does it actually have enough high frequency response 
to
> make realistic cymbal sounds? I haven't heard it but I would 
imagine a
> Bass amp would top out at about 6khz to 8 khz... To get close to
> reasonable cymbal sounds, I would guess you'd need at least
> 10khz-15khz... Do you know what the frequency response the amp you 
got
> has?

Ken,

I'm going to second Vern and Steph. Forgetting power, headroom, 
design, and other considerations for the moment. Bass amps produce 
only a fraction of the frequencies that an e-drum is capable reaching 
because bass guitars don't need them. Forgive me if I sound pedantic, 
but you may think that the amp is doing an adequate job only because 
you have no basis for comparison. I don't know how many times I 
reached a certain fairly lofty plateau in audio, thinking that the 
sound couldn't possibly get any better only to find out that I was 
wrong; you have barely scratched the surface with a 60 watt bass amp 
connected to an electronic drumkit. If the store where you bought the 
amp is so accommodating, ask if they'll let you take home a modestly 
powered keyboard amp, like the Roland KC550 or its equivalent, to 
hear what you might be missing. If your ears don't register a 
difference, or enough of a difference, to justify all the crowing 
that we've done, more power to you.

Ed

I'll third it.  You really need a good keyboard amp at the least to do 
the DTXpress justice. The Behringer KX1200 is a fantastic amp to start 
with, plenty of power, and great frequency response, at a fraction of 
the Roland cost.

Stuart McConaghy
Canopus Drums
Meinl Cymbals
SilverFox Sticks

On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 02:21  PM, emf wrote:

> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> > As a bass amp, does it actually have enough high frequency response
> to
> > make realistic cymbal sounds? I haven't heard it but I would
> imagine a
> > Bass amp would top out at about 6khz to 8 khz... To get close to
> > reasonable cymbal sounds, I would guess you'd need at least
> > 10khz-15khz... Do you know what the frequency response the amp you
> got
> > has?
>
> Ken,
>
> I'm going to second Vern and Steph. Forgetting power, headroom,
> design, and other considerations for the moment. Bass amps produce
> only a fraction of the frequencies that an e-drum is capable reaching
> because bass guitars don't need them. Forgive me if I sound pedantic,
> but you may think that the amp is doing an adequate job only because
> you have no basis for comparison. I don't know how many times I
> reached a certain fairly lofty plateau in audio, thinking that the
> sound couldn't possibly get any better only to find out that I was
> wrong; you have barely scratched the surface with a 60 watt bass amp
> connected to an electronic drumkit. If the store where you bought the
> amp is so accommodating, ask if they'll let you take home a modestly
> powered keyboard amp, like the Roland KC550 or its equivalent, to
> hear what you might be missing. If your ears don't register a
> difference, or enough of a difference, to justify all the crowing
> that we've done, more power to you.
>
> Ed
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On Sat February 7 2004 10:24 pm, Stuart McConaghy wrote:
> I'll third it.  You really need a good keyboard amp at the least to do
> the DTXpress justice. The Behringer KX1200 is a fantastic amp to start
> with, plenty of power, and great frequency response, at a fraction of
> the Roland cost.

So loud I can't crank it all the way, otherwise it causes the drum set to 
double trigger or mistrigger because of the vibrations!  The power supply on 
this amp seems to have a very high damping factor (ability to accurately 
control the specific movements of the speaker cone - if the sound needs to 
stop, it needs to stop NOW, not a few microseconds later).  You have to push 
the amp really good to get the 15" subwoofer's voice coil clanging against 
the back of the magnet, which you get with very low frequencies if the amp 
isn't strong enough or tight enough.

Stephanie