Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

i see on the back of the dtxpress computer unit (not sure what to 
call it) there are only 3 tom slots (maybe 4?).  i want to add 
another tom plus on of those sticks (i've seen one with two pads on 
the stick).  is there a way to add pads if all of the input slots are 
already in use?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "peenod" <joelp@n...> wrote:
> i see on the back of the dtxpress computer unit (not sure what to 
> call it) there are only 3 tom slots (maybe 4?).  i want to add 
> another tom plus on of those sticks (i've seen one with two pads on 
> the stick).  is there a way to add pads if all of the input slots 
are 
> already in use?

You could add either two rubber stereo pads on double input 9/10 via 
a TRS splitter (though only pads without rims/edges, since the 
rims/edges on Yamaha or other companies' rubber pads won't work in 
this input), or you could add a single BP-80 tube (I assume that this 
is the "stick" that you mean) on 9/10, but nothing else, since this 
component is essentially two triggers in one housing.

i am new to the dtxpress (it is just dtxpress, not II or III) and have a 
couple of questions:

a) will the module accept any electronic pad i purchase to add or replace 
an existing pad on my kit?
b) i would like to replace the ride with one that is capable of playing on 
the bell - will this require two inputs or can i simply input it into the 
ride input.
c) i have seen some sophisticated electronic hi hats (my current one is 
just a pad).  will these work on the dtxpress?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> i am new to the dtxpress (it is just dtxpress, not II or III) and 
have a 
> couple of questions:
 
> a) will the module accept any electronic pad i purchase to add or 
replace an existing pad on my kit?

In principle, yes, but some work better than others, and some may not 
work satisfactorily at all. In the absence of experience or 
experienced advice, it's always better to use pads from the company 
that made the module. If you have something particular in mind, just 
ask us. Someone may know.

> b) i would like to replace the ride with one that is capable of 
playing on 
> the bell - will this require two inputs or can i simply input it 
into the 
> ride input.

Generally, cymbals with a bell require two inputs. Yamaha's new three-
sound cymbal will trigger a bell and an edge on one input but not on 
the DTXpress module that you have.
 
> c) i have seen some sophisticated electronic hi hats (my current 
one is 
> just a pad).  will these work on the dtxpress?

Almost any electronic cymbal that appeals to you for a hi hat will 
work (except for the Hart ECymbal) with your Yamaha pedal; a new 
controller section (pedal), however, will need an adapter, since the 
Roland-style ones, which dominate the aftermarket, and the Yamaha 
ones work on different principles. Again, you should be able to use 
the complete new Yamaha hi hat on a stand with the DTXPI module, when 
it is available as a separate component.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> You could add either two rubber stereo pads on double input 9/10 
via 
> a TRS splitter (though only pads without rims/edges, since the 
> rims/edges on Yamaha or other companies' rubber pads won't work in 
> this input), or you could add a single BP-80 tube (I assume that 
this 
> is the "stick" that you mean) on 9/10, but nothing else, since this 
> component is essentially two triggers in one housing.

Hey, Joel,

I hope you see this post. In that first sentence where I 
wrote "stereo" I meant to write "mono." If you follow my reasoning, 
you'll get my intention, because the rubber pads with rims/edges are, 
in fact, "stereo" pads--the ones to avoid in input 9/10. For my 
mistake, I'm serving detention in the Schmenge brothers band. 

Ed

i am new to the dtxpress and have a few basic problems.

main volume:  the main volume seems very low.  the aux volume and the 
volume of the songs and pre-programmed drums can be cranked up nice and 
loud.  but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the drums are 
so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in to some 
of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any ideas?

song looping:  there's this great latin number programmed (i think it's 
#32) in the module but it only plays for about 2 minutes.  i thought the 
songs play continuously.  is there a way to keep the song going so i don't 
have to stop playing along and restart the song?

thanks for any help.  this group is great.

Just bought a DTX III and have the same problem.

Help anyone?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> i am new to the dtxpress and have a few basic problems.
> 
> main volume:  the main volume seems very low.  the aux volume and 
the 
> volume of the songs and pre-programmed drums can be cranked up nice 
and 
> loud.  but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the 
drums are 
> so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in 
to some 
> of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any 
ideas?
> 
> song looping:  there's this great latin number programmed (i think 
it's 
> #32) in the module but it only plays for about 2 minutes.  i 
thought the 
> songs play continuously.  is there a way to keep the song going so 
i don't 

> have to stop playing along and restart the song?
> 
> thanks for any help.  this group is great.

Hmmm, I seem to remember thinking the same thing when I first got my 
Dtxpress Mk1 4 years ago.
The 'pre-programmed' drums trigger at maximum it always seemed to me 
and no matter how hard you hit the pads you don't seem to quite 
reach the same level.  You can play about with the 
triggering/sensitivity for the pads and check if the master kit 
volume is at 127, but unless something has markedly changed for the 
newer versions then it comes down to balancing the volume levels.
I've always found as well that some sounds are much 'bigger' than 
others - also layering the toms with 2 voices for example produces a 
much better output with more oomph.  I use 2 voices on every pad for 
this reason.
The provided songs can't be edited or copied to the user area for 
editing as far as I know (?) - so you can't change the 'Repeat=off' 
parameter.

Hope that's some help.

regards,
William


but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the drums are 
> so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in 
to some 
> of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any 
ideas?
> 
> song looping:  there's this great latin number programmed (i think 
it's 
> #32) in the module but it only plays for about 2 minutes.  i 
thought the 
> songs play continuously.  is there a way to keep the song going so 
i don't 

> have to stop playing along and restart the song?
> 
> thanks for any help.  this group is great.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> i am new to the dtxpress and have a few basic problems.
> 
> main volume:  the main volume seems very low.  the aux volume and 
the 
> volume of the songs and pre-programmed drums can be cranked up nice 
and 
> loud.  but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the 
drums are 
> so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in 
to some 
> of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any 
ideas?

William is right, I think. If maxing the volume of the kit at 127 
near the end of the Voice Edit Mode doesn't get the levels up 
sufficiently, you  might have take other measures. If getting the 
levels relatively matched is more important than getting loud per se, 
you could simply reduce the volume of songs until they match the 
volume of the kit. But if your headphones aren't able to shut out 
extraneous noise at that volume, you might consider getting a 
headphone amp, which would allow you to exceed the capacity of the 
little one in the DTXP. You don't have to spend a lot of money (in 
fact, I have a little Rolls headphone amp, which increases volume by 
20 db, lying around; contact me privately if you're interested).
> 
> song looping:  there's this great latin number programmed (i think 
it's 
> #32) in the module but it only plays for about 2 minutes.  i 
thought the 
> songs play continuously.  is there a way to keep the song going so 
i don't 
> have to stop playing along and restart the song?

If I'm not mistaken, some of the programmed song material repeats, 
and some of it stops dead. However, there is a song copy function. 
You can find it in the Song Job Mode.

Ed

thanks!  great feedback. i hadn't even checked the volume of the kit.  i 
reset it to the factory settings...do you know if the kit is 127 at the 
factory setting.  i'll check it when i get home.  thanks again.


At 02:44 PM 3/29/04 +0000, you wrote:

>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> > i am new to the dtxpress and have a few basic problems.
> >
> > main volume:  the main volume seems very low.  the aux volume and
>the
> > volume of the songs and pre-programmed drums can be cranked up nice
>and
> > loud.  but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the
>drums are
> > so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in
>to some
> > of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any
>ideas?
>
>William is right, I think. If maxing the volume of the kit at 127
>near the end of the Voice Edit Mode doesn't get the levels up
>sufficiently, you  might have take other measures. If getting the
>levels relatively matched is more important than getting loud per se,
>you could simply reduce the volume of songs until they match the
>volume of the kit. But if your headphones aren't able to shut out
>extraneous noise at that volume, you might consider getting a
>headphone amp, which would allow you to exceed the capacity of the
>little one in the DTXP. You don't have to spend a lot of money (in
>fact, I have a little Rolls headphone amp, which increases volume by
>20 db, lying around; contact me privately if you're interested).

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> thanks!  great feedback. i hadn't even checked the volume of the 
kit.  i 
> reset it to the factory settings...do you know if the kit is 127 at 
the 
> factory setting.  

It's been a long time, but I don't think that 127 is the default 
setting. I seem to remember that when this group started back in 
1999, the common kit volume parameter was discovered in the attempt 
to raise the volume.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> thanks!  great feedback. i hadn't even checked the volume of the 
kit.  i 
> reset it to the factory settings...do you know if the kit is 127 at 
the 
> factory setting.  

 The volume issue has been with us since the first dtxpress I kit. I
recently emailed Yamaha asking why the headphone amp has always had a
relatively low volume. In the process of asking the question in a diplomatic
fashion, I may have answered my own question. 
 
Considering the large number of people that think they can take no
responsibility for their actions and the large numbers of lawyers, it would
make sense to limit the volume levels sent out through the headphone jack.
If the headphone jack was capable of producing 150db sound level, hearing
loss would be incurred and lawsuits would follow. By limiting the levels,
and putting warning labels in the manuals, then lawsuits from hearing loss
can be reduced. When you take the sound out the back (which is line level
only) through the L/R outputs and run them through your amp, then thier
liability is also, eliminated. 
 
I have not taken a sound meter (I have one and will test it) and measured
the sound levels coming out my headphones (run through mixer with a built-in
headphone amp) but I know that it is louder than what I should responsibly
be listening to for prolonged periods.
 
When I had my accoustic set, the headphones simply could not compete with
the volume levels coming from the drums themselves, thus I would have to
play the music coming from it's source at a higher than safe volume to get
it to blend in with the actual drum sound levels. As a teenager and through
my early twenties, I did not use any hearing protection, hence I have a
constant ring in my ears now. When I reached thirty, I would use ear plugs
in addition to the headphones, to reduce the actually sound levels that
reached my ear drums. 
 
With the head phone amp you can acheived acceptable levels, but I would
recommend to the younger folks, who haven't had hearing damage yet, like
some of us old guys/gals have, to buy the best closed back headphones, with
the highest level of db reduction you can find. This will allow you to
reduce the level of the music you are playing along to for extended periods
of time, and in the end minimize long term hearing loss. 
 
OldGuyDrummer
 
   

 
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I have the details about sound levels. I will have to find them at work but
I think it is a max of 90db for up to 1 hour.then for every 10db above that
the time is halved. e.g 100db is 30 mins
110dbs is 15 mins
120db is 71/2 mins

so once you get to 150 bd you don't get very long to listen.

Don't quote me on these figures but I think they are pretty close. These are
workplace maximum working levels.

Gunny

  -----Original Message-----
  From: rdamon@... [mailto:rdamon@...]
  Sent: 29 March 2004 17:56
  To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [DTXpress] Re: main volume too low!


  --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
  > thanks!  great feedback. i hadn't even checked the volume of the
  kit.  i
  > reset it to the factory settings...do you know if the kit is 127 at
  the
  > factory setting.

   The volume issue has been with us since the first dtxpress I kit. I
recently emailed Yamaha asking why the headphone amp has always had a
relatively low volume. In the process of asking the question in a diplomatic
fashion, I may have answered my own question.

  Considering the large number of people that think they can take no
responsibility for their actions and the large numbers of lawyers, it would
make sense to limit the volume levels sent out through the headphone jack.
If the headphone jack was capable of producing 150db sound level, hearing
loss would be incurred and lawsuits would follow. By limiting the levels,
and putting warning labels in the manuals, then lawsuits from hearing loss
can be reduced. When you take the sound out the back (which is line level
only) through the L/R outputs and run them through your amp, then thier
liability is also, eliminated.

  I have not taken a sound meter (I have one and will test it) and measured
the sound levels coming out my headphones (run through mixer with a built-in
headphone amp) but I know that it is louder than what I should responsibly
be listening to for prolonged periods.

  When I had my accoustic set, the headphones simply could not compete with
the volume levels coming from the drums themselves, thus I would have to
play the music coming from it's source at a higher than safe volume to get
it to blend in with the actual drum sound levels. As a teenager and through
my early twenties, I did not use any hearing protection, hence I have a
constant ring in my ears now. When I reached thirty, I would use ear plugs
in addition to the headphones, to reduce the actually sound levels that
reached my ear drums.

  With the head phone amp you can acheived acceptable levels, but I would
recommend to the younger folks, who haven't had hearing damage yet, like
some of us old guys/gals have, to buy the best closed back headphones, with
the highest level of db reduction you can find. This will allow you to
reduce the level of the music you are playing along to for extended periods
of time, and in the end minimize long term hearing loss.

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very good information.  but i guess my question is why is the accompanying 
song so much louder than the kit level?  they both are coming through the 
headphones.

also, when adjusting the volume up to it's highest of 127...is that in 
db?  i.e. 127db?

At 09:02 PM 3/29/04 +0100, you wrote:

>I have the details about sound levels. I will have to find them at work 
>but I think it is a max of 90db for up to 1 hour.then for every 10db above 
>that the time is halved. e.g 100db is 30 mins
>110dbs is 15 mins
>120db is 71/2 mins
>
>so once you get to 150 bd you don't get very long to listen.
>
>Don't quote me on these figures but I think they are pretty close. These 
>are workplace maximum working levels.
>
>Gunny
>
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>Sent: 29 March 2004 17:56
>To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [DTXpress] Re: main volume too low!
>
>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> > thanks!  great feedback. i hadn't even checked the volume of the
>kit.  i
> > reset it to the factory settings...do you know if the kit is 127 at
>the
> > factory setting.
>
>  The volume issue has been with us since the first dtxpress I kit. I 
> recently emailed Yamaha asking why the headphone amp has always had a 
> relatively low volume. In the process of asking the question in a 
> diplomatic fashion, I may have answered my own question.
>
>Considering the large number of people that think they can take no 
>responsibility for their actions and the large numbers of lawyers, it 
>would make sense to limit the volume levels sent out through the headphone 
>jack. If the headphone jack was capable of producing 150db sound level, 
>hearing loss would be incurred and lawsuits would follow. By limiting the 
>levels, and putting warning labels in the manuals, then lawsuits from 
>hearing loss can be reduced. When you take the sound out the back (which 
>is line level only) through the L/R outputs and run them through your amp, 
>then thier liability is also, eliminated.
>
>I have not taken a sound meter (I have one and will test it) and measured 
>the sound levels coming out my headphones (run through mixer with a 
>built-in headphone amp) but I know that it is louder than what I should 
>responsibly be listening to for prolonged periods.
>
>When I had my accoustic set, the headphones simply could not compete with 
>the volume levels coming from the drums themselves, thus I would have to 
>play the music coming from it's source at a higher than safe volume to get 
>it to blend in with the actual drum sound levels. As a teenager and 
>through my early twenties, I did not use any hearing protection, hence I 
>have a constant ring in my ears now. When I reached thirty, I would use 
>ear plugs in addition to the headphones, to reduce the actually sound 
>levels that reached my ear drums.
>
>With the head phone amp you can acheived acceptable levels, but I would 
>recommend to the younger folks, who haven't had hearing damage yet, like 
>some of us old guys/gals have, to buy the best closed back headphones, 
>with the highest level of db reduction you can find. This will allow you 
>to reduce the level of the music you are playing along to for extended 
>periods of time, and in the end minimize long term hearing loss.
>
>OldGuyDrummer
>
>
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As far as the song looping question goes. When you have the song up 
and ready to play, then use the select buttons to go to the arrow in 
the bottom right hand corner, and then use the value button to 
change the single arrow to the two arrow symbol. Some of the songs 
sound a bit dodgy when you do this as the song doesnt end on the end 
of the bar, and there is a slight 
gap.                                                                 
      --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> 
wrote:
> i am new to the dtxpress and have a few basic problems.
> 
> main volume:  the main volume seems very low.  the aux volume and 
the 
> volume of the songs and pre-programmed drums can be cranked up 
nice and 
> loud.  but i have the main volume turned all the way up and the 
drums are 
> so low ...even when i turn the other volumes down.  i even went in 
to some 
> of the drums and cranked their volume to 127...still very low. any 
ideas?
> 
> song looping:  there's this great latin number programmed (i think 
it's 
> #32) in the module but it only plays for about 2 minutes.  i 
thought the 
> songs play continuously.  is there a way to keep the song going so 
i don't 

> have to stop playing along and restart the song?
> 
> thanks for any help.  this group is great.

Ken,

on the Mk1 Dtxpress I think I started by copying one of the standard 
kits to an empty user kit location (just navigate to the kit and 
press 'Save' and then change the kit number in the display before 
pressing save again).
 
Then it's just a matter of hitting the pad concerned and then press 
the 'Voice' button.  
The display then shows the various voice settings including one 
called 'V=1'.. this means that all the settings shown apply to the 
1st voice.  
Navigate to this value using the up/down buttons and change it 
to 'V=2'... you will likely see that there are no values assigned to 
the 2nd voice, so just navigate around and choose whatever sounds 
you like.  
I think I 'pinched' my heavy tom sounds from a kit on the 
Dtxpressions site and uploaded it to the Dtxpress using the 
Dtxchange programme also available there 
(http://www.dtxpressions.com) - 
in fact I was using the programme last night to dump all my kits out 
of the Dtxpress as a backup (you need a midi cable and a regular PC 
with a soundcard as a minimum to do this).

Hope that's helped rather than confused.

regards,
William



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <boomer17@a...> wrote:
> William,
> 
> I have wanted to do this so I would like to know how to go about 
layering/assigning 2 voices to the pads. Can any 2 voices be chosen 
or does it have to be the ones with the bullet marker on the list of 
voices? Can you (or anyone) provide a sequence of steps to 
accomplish this? i.e. an example assigning a couple of voices to a 
tom pad.
> 
> Thanks, Ken

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:

>when adjusting the volume up to it's highest of 127...is that in 
> db?  i.e. 127db?

It's just an arbritary figure like amps that go up to eleven. :-)

Chris

--- Joel Pollock wrote:
> when adjusting the volume up to it's highest of 127...
> is that in db?  i.e. 127db?

--- Chris wrote:
> It's just an arbritary figure like amps that go up
> to eleven. :-)

I think you'll find it's a signed 8-bit number.

Stewart (wearing underpants outside trousers today)

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> a friend of mine in philadelphia wants to buy a dtxpress online. can 
> anyone recommend a good source for the /best/ deal?
>
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:
> --- Joel Pollock wrote:
> > when adjusting the volume up to it's highest of 127...
> > is that in db?  i.e. 127db?
> 
> --- Chris wrote:
> > It's just an arbritary figure like amps that go up
> > to eleven. :-)
> 
> I think you'll find it's a signed 8-bit number.

Very true, but there's no way to shoehorn a Spinal Tap reference 
into the thread with that answer! :-)

Chris

i am new to dtxpress.  regarding set up: i think i am missing some of the 
tube parts for the frame.  i'm wondering if i can just go to home depot and 
buy some pvc tubing and use that.  anyone have any experience in this 
regard?  what can i use for the clamps that would connect the various tubes 
to each other?  any hints and tips on other set up items would be 
appreciated.  also, i can't seem to get the snare and hi-hat coordinated so 
that they feel like i had them on my real kit.

Glad it's helped, Ken.

a couple of other things came back to me during the day...

I think I also played around with the Trigger settings - if you hit 
a pad then the Trigger button on the module and then use the Page 
Down button you can set values for the default output for the pad 
when struck.  
If like me you are not a 'tree bender' (love that expression :-) you 
might try tweaking up the default level (try hitting the pad and see 
how close you are getting to 99%).  This can lead to a lack of 
dynamic range but may be worth a try.
And another thing I did was turn up the sensitivity on the bass drum 
pad - there is a knob on the front (in the Mk1 there is also a slide 
switch) - too high and it may double trigger but again could be 
worth a try.

FWIW I run the output from my Dtxpress Mk1 through a signal 
processor to help with the final sound before going to the PA.

regards,
William

.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <boomer17@a...> wrote:

> Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
> 
> Ken
>

is there any good shareware or freeware for making an mp3 file a midi file 
so that i can run it through my module, adjust the tempo, etc.?  can it 
even be done?  basically i want to be able to slow down a track so i can 
better learn some of the difficult drum passages.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> is there any good shareware or freeware for making an mp3 file a 
midi file 
> so that i can run it through my module, adjust the tempo, etc.?  
can it 
> even be done?  basically i want to be able to slow down a track so 
i can 
> better learn some of the difficult drum passages.

Joel,

I'm quoting myself from another forum long ago. I don't know whether 
the situation has changed in the meantime, but this type of 
conversion is unorthodox, to say the least, because MIDI isn't a type 
of compressed audio or PCM; it is merely a set of instructions about 
how a MIDI instrument is to create sound. That said, 

"I've seen three programs that purport to do the job in one way or 
another (I haven't tried any of them):

AmazingMIDI, which is available at freewareland, can take the wav. 
file of a single intstrument and make the conversion, though 
apparently it doesn't work with drums. 

WIDI MP3 MIDI Converter is a $50 download from AudioUtilities.

Music Recognition Pro is out there somewhere for $100 or so.

If they don't work for your purposes, don't shoot me; I'm just the 
messenger."

Ed

okay ed.  thanks a lot.  maybe i'm going about this in the wrong way.  does 
anyone else out there have a way to take a song (wav or mp3) and slow it 
down to make out the drum part better?  that's basically all i am looking 
to do.


  At 04:12 PM 3/31/04 +0000, you wrote:

>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> > is there any good shareware or freeware for making an mp3 file a
>midi file
> > so that i can run it through my module, adjust the tempo, etc.?
>can it
> > even be done?  basically i want to be able to slow down a track so
>i can
> > better learn some of the difficult drum passages.
>
>Joel,
>
>I'm quoting myself from another forum long ago. I don't know whether
>the situation has changed in the meantime, but this type of
>conversion is unorthodox, to say the least, because MIDI isn't a type
>of compressed audio or PCM; it is merely a set of instructions about
>how a MIDI instrument is to create sound. That said,
>
>"I've seen three programs that purport to do the job in one way or
>another (I haven't tried any of them):
>
>AmazingMIDI, which is available at freewareland, can take the wav.
>file of a single intstrument and make the conversion, though
>apparently it doesn't work with drums.
>
>WIDI MP3 MIDI Converter is a $50 download from AudioUtilities.
>
>Music Recognition Pro is out there somewhere for $100 or so.
>
>If they don't work for your purposes, don't shoot me; I'm just the
>messenger."
>
>Ed
>
>
>
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--- Joel Pollock wrote:
> does anyone else out there have a way to take a
> song (wav or mp3) and slow it down to make out
> the drum part better?

Run, do not walk, to www.ronimusic.com and download Amazing Slow 
Downer.

Stewart

alright, stewart!  awesome!  thanks.

At 04:50 PM 3/31/04 +0000, you wrote:

>--- Joel Pollock wrote:
> > does anyone else out there have a way to take a
> > song (wav or mp3) and slow it down to make out
> > the drum part better?
>
>Run, do not walk, to www.ronimusic.com and download Amazing Slow
>Downer.
>
>Stewart
>
>
>
>C

Joel,

another way to get there: nero wave editor (comes with the nero
burning rom package). Just start it, <Tools>, <Time correction> - here
we are.
You have the possibility to adjust the song or only parts of it (just
mark the passage you want to change).

Regards     -Bongo-



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> okay ed.  thanks a lot.  maybe i'm going about this in the wrong
way.  does 
> anyone else out there have a way to take a song (wav or mp3) and
slow it 
> down to make out the drum part better?  that's basically all i am
looking 
> to do.
> 
> 
>   At 04:12 PM 3/31/04 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Joel Pollock <joelp@n...> wrote:
> > > is there any good shareware or freeware for making an mp3 file a
> >midi file
> > > so that i can run it through my module, adjust the tempo, etc.?
> >can it
> > > even be done?  basically i want to be able to slow down a track so
> >i can
> > > better learn some of the difficult drum passages.
> >
> >Joel,
> >
> >I'm quoting myself from another forum long ago. I don't know whether
> >the situation has changed in the meantime, but this type of
> >conversion is unorthodox, to say the least, because MIDI isn't a type
> >of compressed audio or PCM; it is merely a set of instructions about
> >how a MIDI instrument is to create sound. That said,
> >
> >"I've seen three programs that purport to do the job in one way or
> >another (I haven't tried any of them):
> >
> >AmazingMIDI, which is available at freewareland, can take the wav.
> >file of a single intstrument and make the conversion, though
> >apparently it doesn't work with drums.
> >
> >WIDI MP3 MIDI Converter is a $50 download from AudioUtilities.
> >
> >Music Recognition Pro is out there somewhere for $100 or so.
> >
> >If they don't work for your purposes, don't shoot me; I'm just the
> >messenger."
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >
> >
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excellent!  thanks.

At 05:33 PM 3/31/04 +0000, you wrote:

>Joel,
>
>another way to get there: nero wave editor (comes with the nero
>burning rom package). Just start it, <Tools>, <Time correction> - here
>we are.
>You have the possibility to adjust the song or only parts of it (just
>mark the passage you want to change).
>
>Regards     -Bongo-