Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Yep, I found this out around the same time, I've been waiting from them to
appear as when I ordered my DTXpress III from them I asked if the cymbals
would be available separately, to which they replied 'yes when available.

I've placed a order for the 3 zone ride, and the 2 zone crash. The Pintech
zymbols I have prefer to work via my Roland (to Jon in Japan - Yes Roland
are Japanese) Octapad II then my DTXpress III, I'm hoping I get better
results with Yamaha's own cymbals.

Now here's the bad news, Thomann sent me an order confirmation email, but
have explained that Yamaha now can only ship them "the end of June, and
that's if I order now".
Bit of a shame, but at least there is an approximate time of availability.

Happy drumming to one & all....




----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Chris" <proguk@...>
To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [DTXpress] New round cymbals in Europe


> I'm not sure on the availability of these but they're showing on
> Thomann's website:
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> PCY150S - http://tinyurl.com/yuaaq
> PCY130S - http://tinyurl.com/2qg6r
> PCY130 - http://tinyurl.com/2lxmx
>
> I've been waiting for what seems like an eternity for the PCY150S to
> become available and for various boring reasons I shall have to wait
> another month or so before I can send off my order.  It's always the
> same!
>
> Chris
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Hi,

> I've placed a order for the 3 zone ride, and the 2 zone crash. The
Pintech
> zymbols I have prefer to work via my Roland (to Jon in Japan - Yes
Roland
> are Japanese) Octapad II then my DTXpress III, I'm hoping I get better
> results with Yamaha's own cymbals.

How do the 3 and 2 zone cymbals hook up? Do they need 3 and 2 ports
(one port for each zone)?

  Jono

--- jonobacon wrote
> How do the 3 and 2 zone cymbals hook up? Do they need
> 3 and 2 ports (one port for each zone)?

No, they have a piezo and one or two switches, and connect to a 
standard stereo input.

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...>
wrote:
> --- jonobacon wrote
> > How do the 3 and 2 zone cymbals hook up? Do they need
> > 3 and 2 ports (one port for each zone)?
> 
> No, they have a piezo and one or two switches, and connect to a 
> standard stereo input.

So let me get this right - a three zone cymbal pad plugs into one of
the three zone plugs and you can set a different sound to each zone on
the brain? Is this right?

Am I also right in assuming that the magic box that keith is working
on will allow you to essentially use three seperate pads for a single
input. Right?

Oh, and my DTXPress III arrives tomorrow!!!!!!

  Jono

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jonobacon" <jonobacon@y...> wrote:
 
> So let me get this right - a three zone cymbal pad plugs into one of
> the three zone plugs and you can set a different sound to each zone 
on
> the brain? Is this right?

Yup.
 
> Am I also right in assuming that the magic box that keith is working
> on will allow you to essentially use three seperate pads for a 
single
> input. Right?

I seem to recall that Keith is confining the magic box to stereo 
inputs with one switch and one piezo, leaving the three-sound inputs 
to themselves.
 
> Oh, and my DTXPress III arrives tomorrow!!!!!!

Great news.

Ed

> > Am I also right in assuming that the magic box that keith is working
> > on will allow you to essentially use three seperate pads for a 
> single
> > input. Right?
> 
> I seem to recall that Keith is confining the magic box to stereo 
> inputs with one switch and one piezo, leaving the three-sound inputs 
> to themselves.
>  


Correct.

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "S-E-A" <sonicenergyauthority@n...> 
wrote:
> 
> Now here's the bad news, Thomann sent me an order confirmation 
email, but
> have explained that Yamaha now can only ship them "the end of June, 
and
> that's if I order now".
> Bit of a shame, but at least there is an approximate time of 
availability.


This matches up with what we were told by Jim Haler. If the Dtxpress 
IIIsp/Dtxtreme IIS kits were going out the door like gang busters, 
then the availability of the individual components could lag by a few 
months. They were going to supply the kits firsts and the individual 
upgrade components later. I have seen where folks in Japan have 
gotten some individual pads already, but then again, you have to 
consider the lag time between availability of the kits in Japan and 
in the US/Europe. The Dtxpress IIISP, which included the 
PCY150s/PCY130s/PCY130 was announced in Japan in the middle of 
October 2003 for availability by Novemeber 30, 2003. These kits did 
not come available here until the end of March 2004. So there was a 
few months in which they could ship some extra ones to the Japanese 
market, not knowing what the US/European demand would be.

(Soap Box Time)


My personnal opinion is that both Roland and Yamaha should not have 
shown their new kits until Summer NAMM 2004 and have folks waiting 
around for 3-6 months to get their hands on them, but instead should 
have built up a good supply of the kits for distribution, leaked the 
information in June of 2004 and released them at Summer NAMM 2004, so 
that we could all go out get what we wanted within weeks of their 
announcement. 

I also personnally think that NAMM is becoming a outdated mode of 
introducing new gear. I believe that NAMM needs to become Internet 
based product release gathering, a direct-to-the-actual-consumer 
venture. In most cases, the vendors/distributors that go to NAMM come 
back with less knowledge of the products than what can be found with 
a few hours of searching on the Internet by a consumer. Before I go 
to the local Guitar Center to buy something, I will spend hours 
pouring over information available on the internet and in ALL cases I 
will end up knowing more about that product than the salesman. So why 
spend time and money showing vendors who don't ultimately buy their 
products anyway....We are the ones buying their products and we 
should be the ones that the manufacturers marketing directly.

(Stepping down from soapbox.)

OGD