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2004-05-25 by buddyrich4444
Hi, when you order the DTXpress does it include everything except the bass pedal? I wondered if it included all of the 1/4" cables you need. thanks for any help. any other suggestions of things i need to buy besides a pedal and throne to make it 100%(and sticks obviously).
2004-05-25 by Kevin Richard
If you are buying new then yes and the DTXpress III is supposed to have a "bundled cable" or something like that...to keep it all neat looking. I'm eagerly waiting for mine.. I picked up a used xpress III w/ "cobra jr." double pedals for 800 shipped... no throne but I do have a broken office chair (no arms or back) that I will try first. Have fun! Gilligan --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "buddyrich4444" <PilchersSquad@a...> wrote: > Hi, when you order the DTXpress does it include everything except the > bass pedal? I wondered if it included all of the 1/4" cables you need. > thanks for any help. any other suggestions of things i need to buy > besides a pedal and throne to make it 100%(and sticks obviously).
2004-05-26 by Glen D. Earl
Good question Buddyrich4444; I was wondering the same thing. Obviously you haven't received your system yet either? Neither have I. It's supposed to arrive on the 1st of June (Next Tuesday). I can't wait; I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning. But I'm like you, I would like to make sure I have everything I need to get it setup and running without having to wait any longer for some stupid silly chord or something like that. I'm along with Buddyrich4444, if any one would mind taking the time to let any of us DTXPRESS III beginners know what comes with it and what doesn't, I'm sure we would appreciate it very much. Thx, Glen gdearl@...
-----Original Message----- From: buddyrich4444 [mailto:PilchersSquad@...] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:11 AM To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DTXpress] Cables etc Hi, when you order the DTXpress does it include everything except the bass pedal? I wondered if it included all of the 1/4" cables you need. thanks for any help. any other suggestions of things i need to buy besides a pedal and throne to make it 100%(and sticks obviously). Community email addresses: Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress Alternate DTXpress site: http://www.dtxpressions.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=129ajvo02/M=273541.4247512.5496808.2248467/D=gr oups/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1085593172/A=2061551/R=0/SIG=11sr5b9n1/*http:/l aunch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1001301> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=273541.4247512.5496808.2248467/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2061551/rand=937973408> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
2004-05-26 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Glen D. Earl" <gdearl@e...> wrote: > I'm along with Buddyrich4444, if any one would > mind taking the time to let any of us DTXPRESS III beginners know what > comes with it and what doesn't, I'm sure we would appreciate it very > much. Glen and Mr. Rich, I'm surprised that no one has answered your question. The standard kit comes with everything but the pedal and the throne. Otherwise, all cables and rack parts necessary for you to set up and play are included. If you don't have decent studio headphones, earbuds, or the like, you might consider getting them; if you're playing at home, you'll have to keep the noise down at least some of the time. Remember that typical walkabout-type headphones and many open-design, home-audio varieties with high impedance, low sensitivity, and wire that attaches to both ears and connects at the neck may not be suitable for playing e-drums. Give yourself plenty of room for setting up and walking around the kit to make adjustments. At the very least, place a fairly thick carpet underneath to dull vibrations, especially from the kick pedal, if you have neighbors nearby or will be playing anywhere in the house except the basement or garage. These kits are much quieter than acoustic ones, but they can make an annoying thump for nonparticipants watching tv or trying to find a silent moment. I also suggest that you place some nonperishable food and drink near the spot where you intend to place your drums. You might not make it out of the room for a while--not because you'll be having trouble constructing the thing but because you'll be having so much fun that time and nourishment will cease to matter. Congratulations guys. Ed
2004-05-26 by Creighton Higgins
Glen D. Earl wrote: > Good question Buddyrich4444; I was wondering the same thing. Obviously > you haven\ufffdt received your system yet either? Neither have I. It\ufffds > supposed to arrive on the 1^st of June (Next Tuesday). I can\ufffdt wait; > I\ufffdm like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning. But I\ufffdm like you, > I would like to make sure I have everything I need to get it setup and > running without having to wait any longer for some stupid silly chord > or something like that. I\ufffdm along with Buddyrich4444, if any one would > mind taking the time to let any of us DTXPRESS III beginners know what > comes with it and what doesn\ufffdt, I\ufffdm sure we would appreciate it very much. > > Thx, > > Glen > > gdearl@... > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* buddyrich4444 [mailto:PilchersSquad@...] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:11 AM > *To:* DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [DTXpress] Cables etc > > Hi, when you order the DTXpress does it include everything except the > bass pedal? I wondered if it included all of the 1/4" cables you need. > thanks for any help. any other suggestions of things i need to buy > besides a pedal and throne to make it 100%(and sticks obviously). > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > > Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > > Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=129kvj84m/M=273541.4247512.5496808.2248467/D=grplch/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1085642975/A=2061551/R=0/SIG=11sr5b9n1/*http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1001301> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/ > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > Hey- My DTX-III came with nicely bundled cables in appropriate lengths. Interestingly these are flat and very flexy- not the round stiff kind. The cables are clearly labeled at both ends and with a little fussing they will attach fairly neatly with the 7,452 lengths of Velcro that come with them. Well- it's a whole lot of Velcro and I have a few pieces left over. The kit shipped in three boxes each of which contained a plethora of other boxes. I filled up the big box with flattened small boxes and the kids are using it for an archery target in the yard now as it fills up with cicada corpses. If you want to hook up to an external amp or add an input device you will need to purchase the proper cable. I am pleased with new rack- all is secure and tight and I have not needed to change a single rejection setting thus far. If this is your first set be prepared to be a) thrilled and b) perplexed as you master the challenging and inscrutable settings. With a wee bit of dedication- you are going to have some fun. Creighton
2004-05-26 by buddyrich4444
Thanks for all the help everyone-I should have it by this weekend. Now a 2nd part - how good are the dynamics on the DTXPRESSIII -- is there a wide range of levels based on how hard or soft you hit each pad? and do rolls sound like machine guns?
2004-05-26 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "buddyrich4444" <PilchersSquad@a...> wrote: > Thanks for all the help everyone-I should have it by this weekend. Now > a 2nd part - how good are the dynamics on the DTXPRESSIII -- is there > a wide range of levels based on how hard or soft you hit each pad? and > do rolls sound like machine guns? Depending on your settings, the DTXpress modules have always offered pretty good dynamics with Yamaha pads (Creighton, is the DTXPUIII better than your DTXPUI?). But how you program such trigger settings as gain, minimum velocity, and rejection will have something to do with your final results. The machine-effect is in evidence, to some extent, in every budget module, and even in higher-priced ones. You have to pay at least as much for a module as for the entire DTXpress-- and generally more--to nearly eliminate it. The ddrum4 and the Roland TD-20 adn TD-8 are very good in this respect. I'm willing to bet that the DTXTIIS ain't bad either. But the DTXpress has always delivered a lot of bang for the buck at a good price. Once you get used to its foibles of banging gum rubber, you'll never look back, although you'll probably start looking forward a lot (grin). If you're like 99.9% of the other members, you'll catch the "more pads, more cymbals" bug somewhere down the line. Have fun, and keep us posted on your adventures. Ed
2004-05-26 by Creighton Higgins
emf wrote: >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "buddyrich4444" <PilchersSquad@a...> >wrote: > > >>Thanks for all the help everyone-I should have it by this weekend. >> >> >Now > > >>a 2nd part - how good are the dynamics on the DTXPRESSIII -- is >> >> >there > > >>a wide range of levels based on how hard or soft you hit each pad? >> >> >and > > >>do rolls sound like machine guns? >> >> > >Depending on your settings, the DTXpress modules have always offered >pretty good dynamics with Yamaha pads (Creighton, is the DTXPUIII >better than your DTXPUI?). But how you program such trigger settings >as gain, minimum velocity, and rejection will have something to do >with your final results. The machine-effect is in evidence, to some >extent, in every budget module, and even in higher-priced ones. You >have to pay at least as much for a module as for the entire DTXpress-- >and generally more--to nearly eliminate it. The ddrum4 and the Roland >TD-20 adn TD-8 are very good in this respect. I'm willing to bet that >the DTXTIIS ain't bad either. But the DTXpress has always delivered a >lot of bang for the buck at a good price. Once you get used to its >foibles of banging gum rubber, you'll never look back, although >you'll probably start looking forward a lot (grin). If you're like >99.9% of the other members, you'll catch the "more pads, more >cymbals" bug somewhere down the line. Have fun, and keep us posted on >your adventures. > >Ed > > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > >Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >. > > > this is killing me- but I have remarkably little seat time with the newdrums since I have been renovating our downstairs bathroom and have really inflamed my wrists removing a cast iron tub with a sledge hammer. My initial impressions are that dynamic range remains finite which is more a factor of digital design than anything, i.e. you get 128 steps and that's it. In other words I haven't noticed yet a big difference in dynamic range. I am excited by features most of you take for granted such as a multi-zone snare and what I believe is a much cleaner amplifier section. I think the more robust rack reduces cross talk and the layout of the rack provides a more natural playing experience. The cymbals are competitive with anyone else's in my opinion and the hihat is vastly superior to the old HH60. Not sure if this helps.
2004-05-26 by Creighton Higgins
emf wrote: >--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "buddyrich4444" <PilchersSquad@a...> >wrote: > > >>Thanks for all the help everyone-I should have it by this weekend. >> >> >Now > > >>a 2nd part - how good are the dynamics on the DTXPRESSIII -- is >> >> >there > > >>a wide range of levels based on how hard or soft you hit each pad? >> >> >and > > >>do rolls sound like machine guns? >> >> > >Depending on your settings, the DTXpress modules have always offered >pretty good dynamics with Yamaha pads (Creighton, is the DTXPUIII >better than your DTXPUI?). But how you program such trigger settings >as gain, minimum velocity, and rejection will have something to do >with your final results. The machine-effect is in evidence, to some >extent, in every budget module, and even in higher-priced ones. You >have to pay at least as much for a module as for the entire DTXpress-- >and generally more--to nearly eliminate it. The ddrum4 and the Roland >TD-20 adn TD-8 are very good in this respect. I'm willing to bet that >the DTXTIIS ain't bad either. But the DTXpress has always delivered a >lot of bang for the buck at a good price. Once you get used to its >foibles of banging gum rubber, you'll never look back, although >you'll probably start looking forward a lot (grin). If you're like >99.9% of the other members, you'll catch the "more pads, more >cymbals" bug somewhere down the line. Have fun, and keep us posted on >your adventures. > >Ed > > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > >Alternate DTXpress site: > http://www.dtxpressions.com >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >. > > > One more thing- I have found that increasing the decay setting on the snare helps a bit with the machine effect. (I am at work so I _think _it is the "decay" setting-someone help me here) This involves entering a negative number which is a bit non-intuitive. Creighton
2004-05-26 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Creighton Higgins <creighton@l...> wrote: > My initial impressions are that dynamic range remains finite which is > more a factor of digital design than anything, i.e. you get 128 steps > and that's it. In other words I haven't noticed yet a big difference in > dynamic range. To put Creighton's numerical figure into perspective, the ddrum4 boasts a dynamic range of 1,000 steps. Although this figure is probably an exaggeration, it has some relative validity due to the fact that its triggering occurs in the analog domain, allowing for smooth gradations. As Creighton says, the DTXpress suffers from the discrete gaps in its digital triggering, especially when the engine isn't close to state of the art. But that said, 128 steps isn't a liability for all styles of playing. Nor has the relative lack of dynamic range on the DTXP been a popular complaint on this board, except with pads made by other companies.
2004-05-26 by emf
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Creighton Higgins <creighton@l...> wrote: > One more thing- I have found that increasing the decay setting on the > snare helps a bit with the machine effect. (I am at work so I _think _it > is the "decay" setting-someone help me here) This involves entering a > negative number which is a bit non-intuitive. Creighton, Yes, it's decay, and it is counterintuitive. You turn down the parameter to reduce the degree of contraction, rather than turning it up to increase decay. Weird. By the way, sorry to hear about the wrist but happy to hear about the new bathroom. Ed