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Re: Hi

Re: Hi

2001-03-13 by Sanctum

Please post all your questions directly to the board, that way everyone sees
them and gets the benefit of the answer.

Just briefly though...

Yamaha do a dual zone rubber pad, as do many other manufacturers (try
Pintech for value) which will all work with the DTXpress stereo inputs
(1-8).
You need a "dual zone" pad, using a piezo trigger for the main zone and a
condenser trigger for the outer rim.

Mesh head pads aren't an option.  Because of the nature of the design they
do not lend themselves to condenser triggers.  My knowledge is by no means
exhaustive, but I am not aware of any mesh head dual zone pads that use
condenser triggers for the rim, all use a second piezo so would have to go
through 9/10 on the DTXpress.

Hope you get what you're looking for
Sanc

-----Original Message-----
From: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
To: sanctum@... <sanctum@...>
Date: 11 March 2001 22:31
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Subject: Hi


>Hello - I have seen you post a few times on the DTXpress web site,
>andhad a question for you.  Do you know of a dual-zone snare that I
>can add to me DTXpress that will allow me to do rim shots without
>using the 9/10 jack?  Of course,  I prefer one with a mesh head, but
>I will settle for rubber if I must.
>
>Thanks so much for your help - I need my rimshots back!
>
>Tim
>Ipwsich UK
>

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi

2001-03-13 by Brandon Paluzzi

Actually, the new DTXtreme pads use FSR (condensers) for the rim trigger,
piezo for the head trigger.

BP

On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Sanctum wrote:

> Please post all your questions directly to the board, that way everyone sees
> them and gets the benefit of the answer.
> 
> Just briefly though...
> 
> Yamaha do a dual zone rubber pad, as do many other manufacturers (try
> Pintech for value) which will all work with the DTXpress stereo inputs
> (1-8).
> You need a "dual zone" pad, using a piezo trigger for the main zone and a
> condenser trigger for the outer rim.
> 
> Mesh head pads aren't an option.  Because of the nature of the design they
> do not lend themselves to condenser triggers.  My knowledge is by no means
> exhaustive, but I am not aware of any mesh head dual zone pads that use
> condenser triggers for the rim, all use a second piezo so would have to go
> through 9/10 on the DTXpress.
> 
> Hope you get what you're looking for
> Sanc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
> To: sanctum@... <sanctum@...>
> Date: 11 March 2001 22:31
> Subject: Hi
> 
> 
> >Hello - I have seen you post a few times on the DTXpress web site,
> >andhad a question for you.  Do you know of a dual-zone snare that I
> >can add to me DTXpress that will allow me to do rim shots without
> >using the 9/10 jack?  Of course,  I prefer one with a mesh head, but
> >I will settle for rubber if I must.
> >
> >Thanks so much for your help - I need my rimshots back!
> >
> >Tim
> >Ipwsich UK
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Community email addresses:
>   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> 
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi

2001-03-13 by Colin Lewis

Ok, can anyone explain to me  how a
Force Sensing Resistor and/or condensor(=capacitor??) is used for the rim of
a drum pad?

There are plenty of places on the web where you can find how to wire a
single
peizoelectric transducer to a drum module to make your own pads. However,
no one seems to know how to make your own pad/rim type pad.

Anyone taken one apart?


-Colin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Paluzzi" <brandon@...>
To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <tdjme@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi


> Actually, the new DTXtreme pads use FSR (condensers) for the rim trigger,
> piezo for the head trigger.
>
> BP
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Sanctum wrote:
>
> > Please post all your questions directly to the board, that way everyone
sees
> > them and gets the benefit of the answer.
> >
> > Just briefly though...
> >
> > Yamaha do a dual zone rubber pad, as do many other manufacturers (try
> > Pintech for value) which will all work with the DTXpress stereo inputs
> > (1-8).
> > You need a "dual zone" pad, using a piezo trigger for the main zone and
a
> > condenser trigger for the outer rim.
> >
> > Mesh head pads aren't an option.  Because of the nature of the design
they
> > do not lend themselves to condenser triggers.  My knowledge is by no
means
> > exhaustive, but I am not aware of any mesh head dual zone pads that use
> > condenser triggers for the rim, all use a second piezo so would have to
go
> > through 9/10 on the DTXpress.
> >
> > Hope you get what you're looking for
> > Sanc
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
> > To: sanctum@... <sanctum@...>
> > Date: 11 March 2001 22:31
> > Subject: Hi
> >
> >
> > >Hello - I have seen you post a few times on the DTXpress web site,
> > >andhad a question for you.  Do you know of a dual-zone snare that I
> > >can add to me DTXpress that will allow me to do rim shots without
> > >using the 9/10 jack?  Of course,  I prefer one with a mesh head, but
> > >I will settle for rubber if I must.
> > >
> > >Thanks so much for your help - I need my rimshots back!
> > >
> > >Tim
> > >Ipwsich UK
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Community email addresses:
> >   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >
> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
> >
> >
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
>
>
>
>
> Community email addresses:
>   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi

2001-03-14 by Sanctum

The condenser works by pulling the voltage to earth triggering the brain
through an inverter circuit.

That's the way its been explained to me, but I'm not an electrician and
therefore don't actually understand it, maybe another electrician can
explain how this works in plain english.



-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Lewis <colin@...>
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
Date: 13 March 2001 22:19
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi


>Ok, can anyone explain to me  how a
>Force Sensing Resistor and/or condensor(=capacitor??) is used for the rim
of
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>a drum pad?
>
>There are plenty of places on the web where you can find how to wire a
>single
>peizoelectric transducer to a drum module to make your own pads. However,
>no one seems to know how to make your own pad/rim type pad.
>
>Anyone taken one apart?
>
>
>-Colin
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brandon Paluzzi" <brandon@...>
>To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
>Cc: <tdjme@...>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi
>
>
>> Actually, the new DTXtreme pads use FSR (condensers) for the rim trigger,
>> piezo for the head trigger.
>>
>> BP
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Sanctum wrote:
>>
>> > Please post all your questions directly to the board, that way everyone
>sees
>> > them and gets the benefit of the answer.
>> >
>> > Just briefly though...
>> >
>> > Yamaha do a dual zone rubber pad, as do many other manufacturers (try
>> > Pintech for value) which will all work with the DTXpress stereo inputs
>> > (1-8).
>> > You need a "dual zone" pad, using a piezo trigger for the main zone and
>a
>> > condenser trigger for the outer rim.
>> >
>> > Mesh head pads aren't an option.  Because of the nature of the design
>they
>> > do not lend themselves to condenser triggers.  My knowledge is by no
>means
>> > exhaustive, but I am not aware of any mesh head dual zone pads that use
>> > condenser triggers for the rim, all use a second piezo so would have to
>go
>> > through 9/10 on the DTXpress.
>> >
>> > Hope you get what you're looking for
>> > Sanc
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
>> > To: sanctum@... <sanctum@...>
>> > Date: 11 March 2001 22:31
>> > Subject: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> > >Hello - I have seen you post a few times on the DTXpress web site,
>> > >andhad a question for you.  Do you know of a dual-zone snare that I
>> > >can add to me DTXpress that will allow me to do rim shots without
>> > >using the 9/10 jack?  Of course,  I prefer one with a mesh head, but
>> > >I will settle for rubber if I must.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks so much for your help - I need my rimshots back!
>> > >
>> > >Tim
>> > >Ipwsich UK
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Community email addresses:
>> >   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
>> >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
>> >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>> >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
>> >
>> > Shortcut URL to this page:
>> >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
>> >
>> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   bp33@...  http://www.bpaluzzi.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Community email addresses:
>>   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
>>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
>>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
>>
>> Shortcut URL to this page:
>>   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>
>
>
>Community email addresses:
>  Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
>  Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
>  Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>  List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
>
>Shortcut URL to this page:
>  http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi

2001-03-14 by Mark T. Owen

This is info I've mentioned before... but some folks have
successfully triggered dual FSR/Piezo pads. And you don't
need to be an electronics tech!
Go to http://www.electronicdrums.com/frames/...and sign up
as a member (small charge...worthwhile). Within the members
posts and project plans are details of various versions:
triggering "real" drums, building pads from remo practice
pads or roto-toms, etc.  I haven't tried the dual zone
thing, but it is very simple to build custom pads and to
trigger drums... Some members have sourced the condenser
aka:FSR material and have shared the purchase of small
quantities required for a drum...

I have built a few piezo proto-types (bar-pad, extra cymbal,
and an internal trigger for a snare)...planning to do more.

M




Sanctum wrote:

> The condenser works by pulling the voltage to earth
> triggering the brain
> through an inverter circuit.
>
> That's the way its been explained to me, but I'm not an
> electrician and
> therefore don't actually understand it, maybe another
> electrician can
> explain how this works in plain english.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Lewis <colin@...>
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
> Date: 13 March 2001 22:19
> Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi
>
>
> >Ok, can anyone explain to me  how a
> >Force Sensing Resistor and/or condensor(=capacitor??) is
> used for the rim
> of
> >a drum pad?
> >
> >There are plenty of places on the web where you can find
> how to wire a
> >single
> >peizoelectric transducer to a drum module to make your
> own pads. However,
> >no one seems to know how to make your own pad/rim type
> pad.
> >
> >Anyone taken one apart?
> >
> >
> >-Colin
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brandon Paluzzi" <brandon@...>
> >To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
> >Cc: <tdjme@...>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Hi
> >
> >
> >> Actually, the new DTXtreme pads use FSR (condensers)
> for the rim trigger,
> >> piezo for the head trigger.
> >>
> >> BP
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Sanctum wrote:
> >>
> >> > Please post all your questions directly to the board,
> that way everyone
> >sees
> >> > them and gets the benefit of the answer.
> >> >
> >> > Just briefly though...
> >> >
> >> > Yamaha do a dual zone rubber pad, as do many other
> manufacturers (try
> >> > Pintech for value) which will all work with the
> DTXpress stereo inputs
> >> > (1-8).
> >> > You need a "dual zone" pad, using a piezo trigger for
> the main zone and
> >a
> >> > condenser trigger for the outer rim.
> >> >
> >> > Mesh head pads aren't an option.  Because of the
> nature of the design
> >they
> >> > do not lend themselves to condenser triggers.  My
> knowledge is by no
> >means
> >> > exhaustive, but I am not aware of any mesh head dual
> zone pads that use
> >> > condenser triggers for the rim, all use a second
> piezo so would have to
> >go
> >> > through 9/10 on the DTXpress.
> >> >
> >> > Hope you get what you're looking for
> >> > Sanc
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: tdjme@... <tdjme@...>
> >> > To: sanctum@...
> <sanctum@...>
> >> > Date: 11 March 2001 22:31
> >> > Subject: Hi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >Hello - I have seen you post a few times on the
> DTXpress web site,
> >> > >andhad a question for you.  Do you know of a
> dual-zone snare that I
> >> > >can add to me DTXpress that will allow me to do rim
> shots without
> >> > >using the 9/10 jack?  Of course,  I prefer one with
> a mesh head, but
> >> > >I will settle for rubber if I must.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks so much for your help - I need my rimshots
> back!
> >> > >
> >> > >Tim
> >> > >Ipwsich UK
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Community email addresses:
> >> >   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> >> >   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >> >   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >> >   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >> >
> >> > Shortcut URL to this page:
> >> >   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> >>   bp33@...  http://www.bpaluzzi.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Community email addresses:
> >>   Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com
> >>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >>
> >> Shortcut URL to this page:
> >>   http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Community email addresses:
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> >  Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com
> >  Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >  List owner:   DTXpress-owner@onelist.com
> >
> >Shortcut URL to this page:
> >  http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress
> >
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> >
> >
>
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