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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Adrian Joyner

Thanks Paul,

I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
regards

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:44 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


  Adrian,

  You wrote:
  >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
  > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to something
  >more sepia(ish)

  OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia toner as a
  starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It was not
  warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.

  So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  Once you mix
  this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to make the
  FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, if the sepia
  tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan to get the
  tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.

  FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta (color
  pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).

  Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite measures) a
  lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I distributed in the
  print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of show and
  sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Paul Roark
    To: DigitalB&WPrint
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
    Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul


    Adrian,

    >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
    >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

    The long answer:

    Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
    sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same
  with
    all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
    get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
    changes.

    Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
    you need a "plug & play" solution?

    The short answer:

    Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
    identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
    inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
    different dilutions.

    Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

    Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

          Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

          Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Paul
    http://www.PaulRoark.com



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