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[Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Paul Roark

Adrian,

You wrote:
>... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
> can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to something
>more sepia(ish)

OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia toner as a
starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It was not
warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.

So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  Once you mix
this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to make the
FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, if the sepia
tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan to get the
tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.

FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta (color
pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).

Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite measures) a
lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I distributed in the
print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of show and
sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Paul Roark
  To: DigitalB&WPrint
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul


  Adrian,

  >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
  >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

  The long answer:

  Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
  sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same
with
  all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
  get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
  changes.

  Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
  you need a "plug & play" solution?

  The short answer:

  Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
  identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
  inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
  different dilutions.

  Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

  Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

        Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

        Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

  Let me know how it goes.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Adrian Joyner

Thanks Paul,

I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
regards

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:44 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


  Adrian,

  You wrote:
  >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
  > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to something
  >more sepia(ish)

  OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia toner as a
  starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It was not
  warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.

  So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  Once you mix
  this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to make the
  FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, if the sepia
  tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan to get the
  tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.

  FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta (color
  pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).

  Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite measures) a
  lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I distributed in the
  print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of show and
  sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Paul Roark
    To: DigitalB&WPrint
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
    Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul


    Adrian,

    >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
    >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

    The long answer:

    Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
    sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same
  with
    all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
    get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
    changes.

    Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
    you need a "plug & play" solution?

    The short answer:

    Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
    identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
    inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
    different dilutions.

    Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

    Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

          Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

          Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Paul
    http://www.PaulRoark.com



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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by frankg_photo

Adrian,
I haven't gone back to the beginnining of this thread so I hope i'm 
not "jumping in out-of-turn" without having read the history, but I 
wanted to ask if you've considered the Sepia>Neutral inkset ? It's 
really beautiful, and has a wide range of "warms" to choose from 
depending on the pictures.
Frank
> 
> I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. 
Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
> regards
> 
> Adrian Joyner

>   Adrian,
> 
>   You wrote:
>   >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
>   > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to 
something
>   >more sepia(ish)
> 
>   OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia 
toner as a
>   starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It 
was not
>   warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.
> 
>   So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  
Once you mix
>   this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to 
make the
>   FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, 
if the sepia
>   tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan 
to get the
>   tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.
> 
>   FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta 
(color
>   pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).
> 
>   Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite 
measures) a
>   lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I 
distributed in the
>   print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of 
show and
>   sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.
> 
>   Paul
>   http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Paul Roark
>     To: DigitalB&WPrint
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul
> 
> 
>     Adrian,
> 
>     >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
>     >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...
> 
>     The long answer:
> 
>     Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- 
perhaps
>     sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities 
the same
>   with
>     all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and 
regular to
>     get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about 
any density
>     changes.
> 
>     Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much 
trouble, or do
>     you need a "plug & play" solution?
> 
>     The short answer:
> 
>     Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density 
(virtually
>     identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the 
MIS Vm
>     inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, 
just at
>     different dilutions.
> 
>     Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear 
base.
> 
>     Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:
> 
>           Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;
> 
>           Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear 
base.
> 
>     Let me know how it goes.
> 
>     Paul
>     http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Adrian Joyner

Frank

I already use the VM inkset on a 1160 with mostly great success and intend to buy the Sepia>Neutral inkset shortly. But I was interested in using a warm inkset with the Piezo driver on my 3000. Despite owning a PiezoBWPro 7000 system I still have great affection for the output from the Piezo/3000 combo. Its hard to describe but I do like the tonality, which seems to be subtly different from the other Epson/Piezo printers, very much. And of course I can print 16x20. The latest 3000 Piezo driver is glacially slow but I have none of the banding problems that affected earlier revisions. The 3000 doesn't print too much now the 7000 has come along so I could afford to dedicate it as a warmtone printer.

I have had some issues with the VM workflow compared to Piezo which on some of my images result in posterization and, to my eyes, an unnatural tonal range especially in the shadows. Therefore my interest in combining the Piezo driver with a warmtone inkset.

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


  Adrian,
  I haven't gone back to the beginnining of this thread so I hope i'm 
  not "jumping in out-of-turn" without having read the history, but I 
  wanted to ask if you've considered the Sepia>Neutral inkset ? It's 
  really beautiful, and has a wide range of "warms" to choose from 
  depending on the pictures.
  Frank
  > 
  > I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. 
  Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
  > regards
  > 
  > Adrian Joyner

  >   Adrian,
  > 
  >   You wrote:
  >   >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
  >   > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to 
  something
  >   >more sepia(ish)
  > 
  >   OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia 
  toner as a
  >   starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It 
  was not
  >   warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.
  > 
  >   So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  
  Once you mix
  >   this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to 
  make the
  >   FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, 
  if the sepia
  >   tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan 
  to get the
  >   tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.
  > 
  >   FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta 
  (color
  >   pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).
  > 
  >   Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite 
  measures) a
  >   lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I 
  distributed in the
  >   print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of 
  show and
  >   sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.
  > 
  >   Paul
  >   http://www.PaulRoark.com
  > 
  > 
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     From: Paul Roark
  >     To: DigitalB&WPrint
  >     Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
  >     Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul
  > 
  > 
  >     Adrian,
  > 
  >     >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
  >     >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...
  > 
  >     The long answer:
  > 
  >     Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- 
  perhaps
  >     sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities 
  the same
  >   with
  >     all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and 
  regular to
  >     get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about 
  any density
  >     changes.
  > 
  >     Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much 
  trouble, or do
  >     you need a "plug & play" solution?
  > 
  >     The short answer:
  > 
  >     Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density 
  (virtually
  >     identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the 
  MIS Vm
  >     inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, 
  just at
  >     different dilutions.
  > 
  >     Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear 
  base.
  > 
  >     Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:
  > 
  >           Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;
  > 
  >           Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear 
  base.
  > 
  >     Let me know how it goes.
  > 
  >     Paul
  >     http://www.PaulRoark.com
  > 
  > 
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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Steadman Uhlich

Paul, 

I would like to use/have a warm sepia toned inkset...but chemistry class was not my fav....so I do not want to have to mix and match inks and deal with dilutions...call me lazy....

Does MIS have a plan or will you be producing a easy to use Sepia that can be used with Piezo driver...something for the Lazy Printer?

Steadman
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Joyner 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


  Thanks Paul,

  I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
  regards

  Adrian Joyner
  Clevedon
  England
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Roark 
    To: DigitalB&WPrint 
    Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:44 AM
    Subject: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


    Adrian,

    You wrote:
    >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
    > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to something
    >more sepia(ish)

    OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia toner as a
    starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It was not
    warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.

    So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  Once you mix
    this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to make the
    FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, if the sepia
    tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan to get the
    tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.

    FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta (color
    pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).

    Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite measures) a
    lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I distributed in the
    print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of show and
    sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.

    Paul
    http://www.PaulRoark.com


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Paul Roark
      To: DigitalB&WPrint
      Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
      Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul


      Adrian,

      >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
      >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

      The long answer:

      Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
      sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same
    with
      all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
      get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
      changes.

      Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
      you need a "plug & play" solution?

      The short answer:

      Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
      identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
      inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
      different dilutions.

      Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

      Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

            Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

            Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

      Let me know how it goes.

      Paul
      http://www.PaulRoark.com



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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Paul Roark

Steadman,

You wrote:

>I would like to use/have a warm sepia toned inkset...
>do not want to have to mix ....

>Does MIS have a plan or will you be producing a easy to use
>Sepia that can be used with Piezo driver...

I don't know.  I'll send the formula to MIS today and let you know if/when I
get a response.

MIS currently sells the VM-Sepia-Neutral (as well as the FS-Neutral) even if
those inks are not on the website.

I think MIS is a bit overwhelmed by all these ink variations.  I suspect the
concern is that novices won't know what to use or start with, and this may
translate into hundreds of phone calls and questions that will clog their
phones.  I've suggested they limit most to just bulk inks.  That should cut
the support costs.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by toomagenta@aol.com

In a message dated 2/23/2002 10:09:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
steadmanuhlich@... writes:


> I would like to use/have a warm sepia toned inkset...but chemistry class was 
> not my fav....so I do not want to have to mix and match inks and deal with 
> dilutions...call me lazy....
> 
> Does MIS have a plan or will you be producing a easy to use Sepia that can 
> be used with Piezo driver...something for the Lazy Printer?
> 
> 

What he said.
George J Kunze


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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-02-23 by Jerry Olson

Morning Paul,

Well, the MIS dye black isn't holding up on eclipse paper, it has faded
quite a bit in a month, so I guess that settles the dye problem. Of
course the enhanced black and generations is doing great, as is the MIS
hextone set.

Jerry

Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula

2002-05-13 by Adrian Joyner

Paul

I'm sorry that it took so long to get back but Customs losing the parcel, a trip to Italy and then finding I was still short of one of the inks delayed the testing.

I did it today and your Warm Sepia FS on a 3000 works beautifully. 

Anybody with a Piezo driver who want a rich sepia tone - try it.

Many thanks Paul

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Joyner 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


  Thanks Paul,

  I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
  regards

  Adrian Joyner
  Clevedon
  England
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Roark 
    To: DigitalB&WPrint 
    Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:44 AM
    Subject: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula


    Adrian,

    You wrote:
    >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
    > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to something
    >more sepia(ish)

    OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia toner as a
    starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It was not
    warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.

    So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  Once you mix
    this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to make the
    FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, if the sepia
    tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan to get the
    tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.

    FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta (color
    pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).

    Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite measures) a
    lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I distributed in the
    print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of show and
    sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.

    Paul
    http://www.PaulRoark.com


      


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