Digital BW, The Print

Adrian,
I haven't gone back to the beginnining of this thread so I hope i'm 
not "jumping in out-of-turn" without having read the history, but I 
wanted to ask if you've considered the Sepia>Neutral inkset ? It's 
really beautiful, and has a wide range of "warms" to choose from 
depending on the pictures.
Frank
> 
> I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on. 
Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
> regards
> 
> Adrian Joyner

>   Adrian,
> 
>   You wrote:
>   >... I was hoping for something much  warmer, ...
>   > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to 
something
>   >more sepia(ish)
> 
>   OK, here is what I've come up with this evening.  The VM-sepia 
toner as a
>   starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It 
was not
>   warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.
> 
>   So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).  
Once you mix
>   this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to 
make the
>   FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below).  Or, 
if the sepia
>   tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan 
to get the
>   tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.
> 
>   FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta 
(color
>   pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).
> 
>   Let me know how it works out.  The test strip looks (and X-Rite 
measures) a
>   lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I 
distributed in the
>   print exchange.  (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of 
show and
>   sold.)  I think it should be a useful shade/tone.
> 
>   Paul
>   http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Paul Roark
>     To: DigitalB&WPrint
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul
> 
> 
>     Adrian,
> 
>     >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
>     >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...
> 
>     The long answer:
> 
>     Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- 
perhaps
>     sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities 
the same
>   with
>     all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and 
regular to
>     get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about 
any density
>     changes.
> 
>     Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much 
trouble, or do
>     you need a "plug & play" solution?
> 
>     The short answer:
> 
>     Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density 
(virtually
>     identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the 
MIS Vm
>     inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, 
just at
>     different dilutions.
> 
>     Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear 
base.
> 
>     Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:
> 
>           Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;
> 
>           Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear 
base.
> 
>     Let me know how it goes.
> 
>     Paul
>     http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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