Frank
I already use the VM inkset on a 1160 with mostly great success and intend to buy the Sepia>Neutral inkset shortly. But I was interested in using a warm inkset with the Piezo driver on my 3000. Despite owning a PiezoBWPro 7000 system I still have great affection for the output from the Piezo/3000 combo. Its hard to describe but I do like the tonality, which seems to be subtly different from the other Epson/Piezo printers, very much. And of course I can print 16x20. The latest 3000 Piezo driver is glacially slow but I have none of the banding problems that affected earlier revisions. The 3000 doesn't print too much now the 7000 has come along so I could afford to dedicate it as a warmtone printer.
I have had some issues with the VM workflow compared to Piezo which on some of my images result in posterization and, to my eyes, an unnatural tonal range especially in the shadows. Therefore my interest in combining the Piezo driver with a warmtone inkset.
Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
----- Original Message -----
From: frankg_photo
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula
Adrian,
I haven't gone back to the beginnining of this thread so I hope i'm
not "jumping in out-of-turn" without having read the history, but I
wanted to ask if you've considered the Sepia>Neutral inkset ? It's
really beautiful, and has a wide range of "warms" to choose from
depending on the pictures.
Frank
>
> I'll order the inks from MIS today and let you know how I get on.
Delivery from the US to the UK will probably be a week or two.
> regards
>
> Adrian Joyner
> Adrian,
>
> You wrote:
> >... I was hoping for something much warmer, ...
> > can you offer advice as to how I can change the colour to
something
> >more sepia(ish)
>
> OK, here is what I've come up with this evening. The VM-sepia
toner as a
> starting place to make an FS-Sepia-cyan didn't work very well. It
was not
> warm enough to be very flexible or interesting.
>
> So, here is a draft formula for an FS-Sepia-cyan (position).
Once you mix
> this you can dilute it just like you diluted the other cyan to
make the
> FS-Magenta and FS-Yellow for the Piezo driver (see below). Or,
if the sepia
> tone is too warm, mix the FS-Sepia-cyan with the standard FS-cyan
to get the
> tone you want, and then do the dilutions below.
>
> FS-Sepia-Cyan = 20% VM/FS/(Piezo?)-K, 26% MIS Archival magenta
(color
> pigment), and 54% MIS FS-yellow (the new yellow pigment).
>
> Let me know how it works out. The test strip looks (and X-Rite
measures) a
> lot like the shade I chose to print the sepia landscape I
distributed in the
> print exchange. (A copy submitted to a juried show took best of
show and
> sold.) I think it should be a useful shade/tone.
>
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Roark
> To: DigitalB&WPrint
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul
>
>
> Adrian,
>
> >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
> >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...
>
> The long answer:
>
> Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer --
perhaps
> sepia -- version is an obvious next step. With the densities
the same
> with
> all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and
regular to
> get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about
any density
> changes.
>
> Do you fill your own carts? Would some mixing be too much
trouble, or do
> you need a "plug & play" solution?
>
> The short answer:
>
> Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan. They are very close in density
(virtually
> identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the
MIS Vm
> inkset. It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads,
just at
> different dilutions.
>
> Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear
base.
>
> Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:
>
> Method 1: Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;
>
> Method 2: Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear
base.
>
> Let me know how it goes.
>
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS -- Sepia FS formula
2002-02-23 by Adrian Joyner