On 05/07/2010 outdoornm wrote: > You are not reading what Michael has said. He said that a higher > resolution scan created a file that showed more grain and was softer. > We all know the mantra to scan at high res for possible future use, > but possibly higher res scans magnify grain. Has this issue been > covered? No, higher res does not "magnify grain", but you can get grain aliasing artifacts when scanning at any resolution below the Nyquist limit for the emulsion. Grain aliasing is similar to moire as a random interference between spatial frequency of sampling and grain distribution, and produces false grain as an artifact. Because grain size and clumping is highly variable, depending on emulsion, exposure and development, the Nyquist limit for the grain structures in any emulsion is is a range of frequencies. Aliasing effects can therefore be localised and limited to certain areas of the image, or across the frame, or absent. I first described this c.1999 on the filmscanners list when Polaroid were puzzled by exaggerated grain in customer scans. You'll find more thorough subsequent discussion about the effect by Pete Andrews at http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Grain.htm Some 2700ppi scanners like the earlier Nikon Coolscans, with their semi-collimated LED lightsource, could produce horrendous false grain in areas such as blue sky on ISO100 slide materials. Many users thought they were seeing real ISO100 grain, and that meant that 2700ppi was more than adequate. In fact they were seeing aliasing products that looked rather like grain, from material that appears essentially grainless to the eye. Higher res scans mitigate the effect. IME upwards of 4000ppi largely avoids the effect on most materials. However I've seen it with overexposed Fuji200 colour neg and also with some of the ISO3200 B&W neg films. TMax3200 is essentially unscannable for me, using a Polaroid SS4000, the aliasing turns out an image made of gravel. -- Regards Tony Sleep http://tonysleep.co.uk
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning b&w negs, revisited
2010-07-05 by Tony Sleep
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