Eric
This is my guess...When the newer printers are printing B&W versus color they are able to select a specific segment of the color pallet available in the form of only using certain channels. I actually find that intriguing.. So in the case the preset apparently is using only the black and green channels.
This preset will not likely be of any use on any other printers as it is merely a variant of the BE&WE preset that HP is using to print BE&WE images..
On the plus side with a RIP and an Epson that can be ran by one the message to me is that it could be developed.. No clue however what lives in that remark.
Personally I think HP did a good job making the box bigger with this. Their materials are still being used which clearly benefits them ...However they are making an effort to broaden the use ...which I feel they have done.. Personal I think it is a great idea.
jimbo
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From: E.Neilsen
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: HP Large Format Photo Negatives
Perhaps, I have misunderstood the information that I read already on the
process. If it is just a media preset, so one doesn't over ink a substrate
that is one thing right. But if it is a targeted color conversion from a B&W
or color file, will it only work on an HP printer with a specific media? I
suppose it might be in the interpretation of the term preset.
I look forward to reading the 33 pages.
Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
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Dallas, TX 75226
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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:57 PM
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Subject: [Digital BW] Re: HP Large Format Photo Negatives
ERIC says, in part: < ... If ever there is a case of teach a man to fish
it's with making digital
negatives. Since the many of the processes used are UV in nature and that
is
not a fixed source for many, the starting point can not be a plug and play
for many. Everything that the light passes through will effect the process
so having a preset seems a bit like being lock into certain conditions to
me. .... >
I don't agree with your conclusion. One has to pick a "paper preset" before
printing anyway as part of the normal workflow. This preset is a "paper
definition" (or "type") that tells the printer how to handle the ink
separation
(how many drops of what color) for the medium (paper) being used. Using
your analogy model, without this new paper definition you'd be trying to
teach
a man to fish who doesn't know where the fish are, or that they even live in
water because he's standing in a desert and doesn't know where the water
is. The chances of him catching a fish would be slim indeed. The paper
preset
gives him the fishing line and hook and points him to the closest river.
And if you have not downloaded and read the PDF Guide that comes with this
paper package file, I suggest you do (it's live on the HP site). It's 33
pages and the scope is pretty amazing with links for more information. This
process has been invented by a single passionate photographer who loves
photography and wants to help other photographers. I know the guy, and he
doesn't
want to force anybody to do anything. But let's be realistic: He uses HP
printers (he's an HP engineer, for goodness sake!), so that's his working
platform. But his goal was to create a tool that helps photographers produce
the
highest-quality digital negatives (and thereby alterntive process prints)
with the least amount of pain. Maybe he'll join the discussion.
H
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: HP Large Format Photo Negatives
2010-08-22 by mrjimbo