If it helps at all I having been printing BO with Eboni ink using a Epson 2200 and was quite happy for a long time. I have a 1400 now with a full set of Eboni-6 inks and it blows the Epson 2200 BO results out of the water just using the Epson driver. Those 5 dilutions do make a difference, how much vs. 3-dilutions or whatever other 3-black ink solution you were mentioning I do not know, I just know it works. Trying to stay BO with only one ink just because you are not sure or do not see how 5-dilute inks will help any could be making it more troublesome than it's worth. Perhaps you'd save money but the 5 dilute inks can only help when subtle shading and gradations are so key to and can make all the difference between an ok B&W print and one that really pops and makes people go "Wow!" -- Richard S. Albany, CA (San Francisco bay area) My Photography Website http://www.lightshadowandtone.com My Flickr River http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/ On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Paul <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > "peter843" <yahoogroups@...> wrote: > > > > > > I'm thinking of getting a 1400 for just B&W printing. > > I thought I would start off with BO printing using one ink. > > > > The MIS BO kit -- > > > http://www.inksupply.com/refill_cart.cfm?oem_cart=EPS-T0791&printerID=512-- > > contains one bottle of ink and six empty cartridges. > > Does each cartridge have to be filled with ink? > > > I've been reading about different options for several days > > and I find it confusing. > > There are a number of options, and it can be confusing. I have the MIS > optioins I've been involved with listed at > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html > > > > I was thinking of starting with Eb6 but I don't understand the need > for 5 dilutions unless it is simply to fill each cartridge. > > Printing with only a single ink can look very good for many images, > assuming the printer is a good one. With a single ink, however, smooth areas > of the print may be a little rougher -- more grainy -- than you'd like. The > dilute inks allow very smooth printing, with no visible dots at all. > > One thing to consider is whether you want to print on matte paper or > glossy. The Eboni inks are matte only. With an inkset like MIS UT14, you can > print on either type without changing inks. You also have control of image > tones -- cool to warm. Eboni-6, like all monotone inksets, can print a > narrower range of tones based on what paper you choose. > > The Eb1400 that Sylvain mentions and I use now is written up at > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb1400.pdf > > MIS does not directly support this inkset because I use a Hewlett Packard > Z3100/3200 Vivera photo black ink in it. This gives me the smooth matte > printing of Eboni-6 but also the ability to control matte print tones as > well as print neutral glossy prints with a simple black only type of curve, > using QuadToneRip. While it's a relatively easy inkset to put together, MIS > does not sell it as a kit. > > > > I thought it would be simpler to start off with just one ink > > but if that means filling 6 cartridges with the same ink then > > that doesn't make sense to me either. > > One ink is easier in some respects, but not others. The Epson driver does > not support black only printing. So, while QuadToneRip -- > http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRoverview.html -- > is an outstanding product, it's one more thing to learn before you'll > actually get good results. > > So, what I recommend is that people start with an inkset that allows them > to simply use the Epson driver. Then you can work your way down the learning > curve one step at a time. Eboni-6 as well as UT14 use this approach. The > general, one step at a time approach is written up in > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eb1400.pdf starting at page 3. > > Note that if you start with Eboni-6 you can easily add the HP PK neutral > glossy ink later. > > Note also with all black only approaches that some printers do well with it > while others may show some microbanding. Multiple inks hide the defects of > printers. At the prices we pay for these printers, don't expect perfection > in every one and every ink position. For example, my 1400 can print an > essentially perfect black only with the HP PK in the Cyan position (at home, > but not at 10,000 feet in the Sierras, I discovered this year), but when I > tried the HP PK in the yellow position, the printer showed microbanding. I > think the 1400 is the best value and an excellent printer, but these > machines are not perfect. > > Good luck with the B&W. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS BO kit for Epson 1400
2010-08-31 by Richard Sintchak
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