Digital BW, The Print

I tried the neutral & warm curves in the 1400 archive attached to http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf. I don't really see much difference in the output of the 21 step. I then tried a color balance curve setting cyan all the way to the left. That lead to a very cyan looking image for the wedge. The print output looked basically the same however :( Is it simply not possible to get output that looks similar to traditional Ilford FB paper developed with Dektol with this inkset? Is it perhaps the paper (Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Matte)? Perhaps I'm doing something wrong in the PS print settings?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mjnewhook" <mjnewhook@...> wrote:
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> Actually, I want the prints to be cold toned. What I find is that the prints now are more sepia colored (or I guess warm toned). I guess, however, that the advice is the same.
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> What I'd ideally like to do though is understand the process better. Is there anything which really explains what magic is going on behind the scenes?
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> Regards, Matthew
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@> wrote:
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> > "mjnewhook" <mjnewhook@> wrote:
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> > > ... Ideally I want to use an ICC with an embedded curve as I use LR to manage my images, and print. That is I don't want to have to enter PS to apply a curve to print the image :)
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> > > Is this document still the recommended process for embedded a curve in an ICC?
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> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf
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> > Yes, that PDF should have what you need.  The Profiles Zip file that is linked to UT14 PDF has several warm AVC curves in it.  You'll need to print those to see which is best.  Then read the 21-step test print and drop that text output along with the curve on the QTR rgb-raw-16.psd file (converted to raw).  
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> > Matte papers will only get up to about Lab B = 8 with this carbon.  Crane Silver Rag makes the best looking sepia I've seen with the MIS carbon.
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> > Let us know how it works out.
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> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
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