Digital BW, The Print

Where did you get the Noritsu ink? They used to only sell it to registered Noritsu owners and I may be thinking of a different printer but I thought they used Epson tech and inks in their printers. Bulk Claria would be fantastic!

The best inks that I've tested came from http://www.rfijet.com/products.html and were the Evolution CKO set. It was not as fade resistant as Claria, but it was far better than most third party dye inks. The black was the darkest thing imaginable and RFI says they have reducers to thin the density out. They might even be able to be thinned with distilled water, not really sure what it would take but the MSDS sheets lists them as very low toxicity (I would need to see if I have any of those sheets to give specifics). I would still consider it a short term ink without additional overcoats or without the use of the swellable papers.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> "dfaprinting" <dfaprinting@> wrote:
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> > Which dye ink are you working with. I will say that the Epson last very well on pretty much all papers though the dmax on matte is not what you might expect. 
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> The 2 machines of interest are the Fujifilm Frontier DL 400 line, which http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com has tests for, and the Noritsu D700 Series.  I personally suspect Fuji is behind all of this ink.  As we know from their photo film and paper products, this company really knows its dye chemistry.
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> > I have tested one of the advanced dye inks and it lasted decently on most papers as well as providing a dmax that was darker than could be accurately measured with my devices on Epson glossy paper and really good on other glossy papers.
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> Which one did you test?
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> The variability in testing is rather interesting.  I don't entirely understand all the variables, but Mark has made some references to this issue.
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> I've ordered a Noritsu black ink cart as a first test ($187/500 ml).  I'll print some test strips with it and with Claria black to see how they compare in terms of color and dmax.  I'll probably also do some of my own initial fade testing to see how they compare (or if they appear to the the exact same ink).  I'll also start working up an initial dilution base and, if I succeed to any extent, get a dilute test strip in the same test batch to see what impact that has.
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> Paul
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