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Re: Number of dilutions versus doubling up inks

2010-12-11 by Yan

I can think of a way to make a qtr curve that would maximise the use of the 2% dilution as follows(think it would work?)
In addition to using a qtr-BO(for cooling/neutrality) curve and a qtr-eb6 curve one could make a third "cooling" qtr curve (also for "cooling" as you seem to suggest).  This third qtr curve would only use eboni-mk and the 2% dilution.  by increasing the ink limit of the 2% dilution sufficiently (without going overboard) one could create a curve in qtr which would maximise the use of 2%.  then, for final printing one could blend the three curves(BO, EB6, and max2%) in order to maximise smoothness while keeping tone cooler.  
I might be totally off.  have not used qtr in 3 years and am waiting for my epson 1400 along with my EB6 inks!!!  looking forward to your inks paul!
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
> "pdesmidt tds.net" <pdesmidt@> wrote:
> >
> 
> 
> > So one candidate inkset would be:
> > Eboni,
> > 30% Eboni
> > 18% Eboni,
> > 9% Eboni,
> > 6% Eboni,
> > 2% Eboni
> 
> That is the standard Eboni/Carbon-6 set.  
> 
> 
> > With these inks two spaces would still be available. 
> 
> Yes, that's why the recommended full K3 set uses Eb6-M and LM (18% and 6%) as the Lk and LLk also.  This allows an ICC controlled, Epson driver workflow, which I believe is the easiest.  
> 
> I prefer an ICC made with the QTR Create ICC-RGB program and an embedded Photoshop curve that uses the maximum 2% dilution.  It makes a very easy, color managed workflow that prints the most neutral prints on the low-delta-b papers.
> 
> 
> > Perhaps adding MIS LK
> > and LLK would be valuable as warm toners?
> 
> Yes, if you like warmer images on matte paper, the MIS glossy carbon pigments will do the job.  These get to about Lab b = 8 on typical papers.  If you add an MIS PK and print on glossy paper, you get to lab b = 14.  And that's beginning to look like a true sepia tone.
> 
> 
> > Would there be any advantages to using a base other than
> > C6a (55% distilled water, 35% glycerol, and 10% Kodak 
> > Photo-Flow 200, all by weight.) 
> 
> Yes, I think it's worthwhile to use the Edwal surfactant (dilution base C6b (p.5 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf) 
> as well as Photo-Flo.  It's readily available and the additional surfactant seems to help with respect to not only a little smoothness but also maybe cleaning (as least in the test tube).
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

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