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Re: Custom sizes on mac -3800/3880 printer

2011-04-22 by frankg_photo

I think I have it !
I decided to download the driver and re-install/overwrite it.
It is the exact same one - same version.
The original was installed off the CD that came with the printer.
My first custom size print worked - yay!

There is a bit of 'overspray' or maybe it's old ink on the rollers that is on the clean white border area - too bad ! But that is a different issue altogether.
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "frankg_photo" <frankgross@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I just tried again:
> Rotating image in PS (from landscape to portrait).
> Creating white canvas area around the image to the size of the cut paper - 17W x 26Hin.
> Print>Page Setup - I increased margins to .5 in all around.
> Looks OK in the Preview image window.
> Set Center image>un-check scale, profile, rendering intent> hit Print.
> Epson driver> set correct paper type etc.
> I had to abort the print after about an inch (to save paper & ink)as it seemed the orientation was printing correctly but only about 6 instead of 15.75 in (40cm) W.
> OMG I am so frustrated & Epson help is closed until Monday.
> 
> Print>Page Setup is
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, anne saint Peter <asp.artist@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure, but I think the 3800 can be sensitive to margins....
> > 
> > As for orientation...Rotate the image in PS the way you want it to
> > print....in our cases vertically. Ignore the orientation in the Epson
> > dialogue box.
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM, frankg_photo <frankgross@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > I can understand why a bigger margin may allow for operator error (paper
> > > taped to substrate), but i dont understand why it would make a difference to
> > > whether my image prints correctly or not (see the original problem/post) ?
> > > I'll try a bigger margin anyway to see.
> > >
> > > Also if you set your image up in photoshop in portrait or landscape
> > > whichever way you want it e.g your example 16 x 35in landscape as a
> > > landscape/horizontal rotation then that should just stay the same in the
> > > Print dialog window? Why do you rotate it the other way, or am I
> > > misunderstanding? If it's portrait/vertical in photoshop then it's going to
> > > be portrait/vertical in the print window preview, and vica versa, no?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, anne saint Peter
> > > <asp.artist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That sounds correct. I have to set my margins for a bleed and operator
> > > error
> > > > (me). Basically you are tell the printer where on the paper or substrate
> > > to
> > > > print the image.
> > > > More importantly, I am orientating the image (rotating it) in PS. And PS
> > > is
> > > > contrtolling the other settings. That works much better for me than
> > > changing
> > > > "portrait/landscape" in the printer dialogue box.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:34 AM, frankg_photo <frankgross@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you say that if my paper is 17 (43 cm) wide (call it 'my
> > > substrate')
> > > > > and my image is sized to 15.75 inches (40 cm) (call it 'my paper') the
> > > > > difference is 1.25 inches (3.175 cm)= I should set my margins to 0.625
> > > in
> > > > > (1.5 cm) ? make sense ? How did you decide on minimum margins of 1/2
> > > inch?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, anne saint Peter
> > > > > <asp.artist@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The front feeder will only take paper 16 inches wide. What I am
> > > printing
> > > > > now
> > > > > > is 14 x 30+ .The substrate has been 15 x 35. I set the paper size for
> > > 15
> > > > > x
> > > > > > 30 and then set the margins 1 in top and 1/2 sides (margins to match
> > > > > paper
> > > > > > placement) . And I'm using double sided tape to hold the paper down.
> > > > > > Truthfully, I have not had much luck with the rear feeder, it always
> > > has
> > > > > > something of its own to add - paper skews and misfeeds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I'm printing Panoramas on metal .....and want a full bleed.
> > > I
> > > > > lie
> > > > > > about the image size to the printer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > annesaintpeter.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:46 AM, frankg_photo <frankgross@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Anne,
> > > > > > > It is encouraging that you have the same OS and it's working for
> > > you.
> > > > > > > I have not tried the Front Feeder nor have I ensured 1/2 inch
> > > margins.
> > > > > > > I have tried 0, 0.13, & 0.25 margins.
> > > > > > > How do you do this - if the paper is 17 in wide then do you size
> > > your
> > > > > image
> > > > > > > to 16 inches wide ? Or if it's a panorama then size it to 16 in
> > > height?
> > > > > And
> > > > > > > do you additionally set the margin size in the Page setup window to
> > > 0.5
> > > > > in?
> > > > > > > I'm not clear what you mean by a larger substarte holding your
> > > paper -
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > taping a smaller sheet onto a larger 17 x 35 sheet?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, anne saint
> > > Peter
> > > > > > > <asp.artist@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not sure what help this is...I'm printing up 30 + inches on my
> > > 3800
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > > the front feeder. I am using a larger, 35 inch substrate to hold
> > > my
> > > > > > > paper. I
> > > > > > > > just reset the image size to the substrate size in the printer
> > > > > dialogue
> > > > > > > box,
> > > > > > > > and make sure I have at least 1/2 inch margin around the paper I
> > > am
> > > > > > > printing
> > > > > > > > on. The image has been oriented correctly (how I want it to print
> > > )
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > PS.
> > > > > > > > This has worked in both PS 3 and 5. Using Mac 10.5.8.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, frankg_photo <frankgross@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am trying to print an image that is sized to 40cm x 60 cm
> > > (23.619
> > > > > > > inches
> > > > > > > > > x 15.747 inches) on an epson 3880. Since the image is longer
> > > than
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > preset
> > > > > > > > > paper sizes (max 17x22), I am cutting off a paper roll and
> > > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > Custom Size Management.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyone have success printing longer than 22 inches on the
> > > 3800/3880
> > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > I am getting the weirdest results with incorrect orientation
> > > and
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > segments of the image printing . If you google 'custom sizes
> > > 3800
> > > > > mac'
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > see that I am not the only one, but there isn't a clear
> > > solution.It
> > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > that PS & the page setup aren't talking to each other nicely.
> > > > > > > > > Preset sizes work OK.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Using Mac OSX 10.5.8 & CS4. I enter the correct width x height
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > File>Page setup. It gives itself a name like 'untitled' which I
> > > can
> > > > > > > re-name.
> > > > > > > > > But in the PS>Print window it shows the orientation reversed.
> > > If I
> > > > > > > switch
> > > > > > > > > the width x height numbers in page setup (width as height etc)
> > > it
> > > > > shows
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > correctly in the PS>Print preview. Either way it doesn't print
> > > > > > > correctly,
> > > > > > > > > and not only is there incorrect orientation but it very weirdly
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > prints
> > > > > > > > > a segment of the image(like a 5.5 inch).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I read about and changed the unit measurement in my OS>System
> > > > > prefs>
> > > > > > > Intn'l
> > > > > > > > > formats> to be US which is how the PS pref is set (both in
> > > inches).
> > > > > > > > > I have tried rotating the image.
> > > > > > > > > Scaled is un-checked, centered is checked.
> > > > > > > > > I'm using auto feeder (no roll paper support on this printer).
> > > > > > > > > I've tried setting all the margins to 0 and also to 0.13 in and
> > > > > also to
> > > > > > > .25
> > > > > > > > > I have not set anything on the printer's lcd menu.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyone have ideas of what may be the problem & solution?
> > > > > > > > > Other than using a RIP.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > (please email)
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