Mark,
It's easy to pass the buck.. but that's really not what's appropriate in this case.. Question.. The print is 60 " long I recall how long was the hinge across the top? It would be fair to assume the if you did your part the same and so did the framer you'd have a good shot at repeating the same issue. So a process change is appropriate.. I would suggest also that it's easier for the framer to change his process then for you to change yours.. It's not a big deal to use a different hinge material and adhesive.. I have floated many pieces thru the years and have never seen this issue pop up. I know I must have 3 different hinge kits in the cabinet.. I think you and your framer need to work out a change to the process and share that with the client so that your all on the same page. Find out what glue was used.. Ya know you could spray the back of the job in the area of the hinges to seal it also if you guys figure that the adhesive had anything to do with it.. I guess just being honest is quite appropriate.. and just do so without blaming anyone.. It'll all come back in the end. Oh and if the buckling is bad and deemed objectionable then it is appropriate to look at look at something a little more secure..
jimbo
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From: Mark Savoia
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Print "cracking" issue
I am mostly worried about after I make a new print for him if it will happen again. If it is all about the framer's responsibility, that might be a tough one sell to MY client, sounds like I am making an excuse. I don't want to use the "after it leaves my place its on its own" statement.
Unfortunately the framer is also a friend with a very good 30 year reputation.
Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com
On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:04 PM, mrjimbo wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> I read this a few times.. I can only offer a few thoughts .. When you describe them as looking like scratches..even so they are separations.. If their only occurring where the hinges are then it gets narrowed down a bit I think.. Paper moves .. not like canvas but any wood based product expands and contracts small amounts based on some outside influences.. The glue that is used on the hinges may have inhibited that to some degree and is in conflict with movement that is going on around it.. It's probably a few things in combination.. I don't know how much hinge material was used to support the print but that print has some weight to it and all the stress is on the hinges then passed thru the glue adhesion back to the paper.. Your seeing some buckling you said so their may not have been enough hinge material used to support that size piece. What I will say is that our coatings that are on many of these materials are more fragile then we think ..This whole thing is a complex puzzle.. I'm noticing some negative things that are showing up in some pieces that have been on display for about the length of time your talking.. It's canvas that has been coated with type C ..the coatings in some cases seem to be loosing their clearness ..as if the surface has changed.. It's tied to exposure to light.. no clue what's really going on yet..
> I was at an art show yesterday an artist was hawking his wares stating that his inks would not fade at all for 12 years... WTF... I asked him how he knew that ..People are stupid at times..
> Sorry your going thru this ..
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> jimbo
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Re: [Digital BW] Print "cracking" issue
2011-07-05 by mrjimbo
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