Really, can metamerism be a characteristic of a printer (the hardware), as opposed to the driver and/or the inks ? That is discouraging indeed. I hate to be dense, but what does "XP" refer to ? The Windows OS ? The Ilford chromagenic film ? John > It was always $50 but on an honor system, I don't know as I paid for > mine. I don't know how I could compare different versions. > > I think metamerism is a characteristic of the 2200 especially with > glossy paper, and the original ink. When I had mine, and used > aftermarket ink, there was still metamerism. > > Here is a message I unearthed by googling "QTR and UT7": from the QTR- > Quadtone RIP Yahoo group, in 2007. > > Also try this link: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-2200-Readme.htm > > Inksupply seems to say QTR and UT-7 are a good combo for Mac, but not > for XP (see below). > > Using XP, CS2 and Epson driver give me good results with UT-7, most > remarkably with glossy : virtually no gloss differential, zero > bronzing (Costco Kirkland). > > QTR is great with Epson OEM pigs but not for me with UT-7 . > > My results seem to confirm that UT-7 isn't appropriate for QTR with XP > : Am I misreading Inksupply's statements(below)? > > ULTRATONE 7 (UT7) FOR EPSON 2200, 7600 & 9600 7 COLOR PRINTERS > > * Roark Configuration- This is for use with Windows or Mac and the > Epson driver. There are 7 inks in the set. They will print from full > sepia to cool using Photoshop adjustment curves or from warm to > neutral using just the Epson sliders on the print driver. They will > work in the 2200, 7600, and 9600 Epson printers. The workflow for the > 2200 is released, the 7600/9600 workflow is under development (as of > 5/22/04). The Roark Configuration inks and cartridges all start with > UT7 as the first 3 digits of the part number. If you don't see this, > you may have the other configuration. > > * Bowhaus/QTR Configuration - We have Ultratone B&W inks > specifically formulated to work with Bowhaus Inkjet Control and > PrintMaker or with the Quadtone RIP software. Both of these > applications are for Mac only. Bowhaus works with OS9 and Quadtone RIP > works with OSX. These inks can not be used with the Epson driver. The > set of 7 inks is a variable tone set that prints from full sepia to > cool and anywhere in between. Both Photo Black and Eboni black are in > the printer at the same time. The software controls which one is being > used, while the other is shut off. > > > On Sep 10, 2011, at 12:11 PM, John wrote: > > > > > > > I messed around a little with QTR a couple years ago when I first > > tried > > B&W printing. QTR was free at the time, but it looks like it's $50 > > now. > > Is the new version noticeably better ? Have they licked the metamerism > > issue, even though the Epson inks are colored ? > > > > What about the option of the UT7 inks, no cartridge filling ? How much > > better than QTR, with the Epson inks, is that ? > > > > Thanks for the help ! > > > > John > > > > > John: > > > > > > You can get rather nice B&W images using QTR driver and the standard > > > epson inks. Why not try that first, QTR is free to try. > > > > > > The 1400 is mentioned favourably, but you may have to mess around > > with > > > filling cartridges to run it B&W. (filling cartridges isn't that > > bad!) > > > > > > Leslie Otterbein > > > > > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:57 PM, John wrote: > > > > > > > I hope this question is not too open-ended ... > > > > > > > > I've had an Epson 2200 for awhile for color printing. I would like > > > > to get into > > > > B&W printing. Trying to read through the archives here, I am a bit > > > > overwhelmed > > > > with the choices; UT7, UT2, Eboni-6, etc. Not to mention the > > variety > > > > of driver: > > > > Epson's, QTR, OPM. > > > > > > > > So I'd like suggestions as to the best way for me to proceed > > towards > > > > getting > > > > good quality B&W prints. I would like some balance of simplicity > > and > > > > quality. > > > > I do not think I want to get into filling my own cartridges or > > > > building my own > > > > profiles; and I do not have a densitometer. I see the Epson 1400 > > > > highly > > > > spoken of in some of the threads, and given its surprising low > > cost, > > > > I would > > > > consider switching to it if the consensus is that it's worth it. > > > > > > > > Leslie Otterbein > > web.me.com/lotterbein > http://gallery.me.com/lotterbein# > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Re: [Digital BW] newbie seeks help for B&W printing with Epson 2200
2011-09-11 by John
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