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Re: [Digital BW] newbie seeks help for B&W printing with Epson 2200

2011-09-11 by John

Really, can metamerism be a characteristic of a printer (the hardware),
as opposed to the driver and/or the inks ?   That is discouraging indeed.

I hate to be dense, but what does "XP" refer to ?   The Windows OS ?
The Ilford chromagenic film ?

John

> It was always $50 but on an honor system, I don't know as I paid for  
> mine. I don't know how I could compare different versions.
> 
> I think metamerism is a characteristic of the 2200 especially with  
> glossy paper, and the original ink. When I had mine, and used  
> aftermarket ink, there was still metamerism.
> 
> Here is a message I unearthed by googling "QTR and UT7": from the QTR- 
> Quadtone RIP  Yahoo group, in 2007.
> 
> Also try this link: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-2200-Readme.htm
> 
> Inksupply seems to say QTR and UT-7 are a good combo for Mac, but not
> for XP (see below).
> 
> Using XP, CS2 and Epson driver give me good results with UT-7, most
> remarkably with glossy : virtually no gloss differential, zero
> bronzing (Costco Kirkland).
> 
> QTR is great with Epson OEM pigs but not for me with UT-7 .
> 
> My results seem to confirm that UT-7 isn't appropriate for QTR with XP
> : Am I misreading Inksupply's statements(below)?
> 
> ULTRATONE 7 (UT7) FOR EPSON 2200, 7600 & 9600 7 COLOR PRINTERS
> 
> * Roark Configuration- This is for use with Windows or Mac and the
> Epson driver. There are 7 inks in the set. They will print from full
> sepia to cool using Photoshop adjustment curves or from warm to
> neutral using just the Epson sliders on the print driver. They will
> work in the 2200, 7600, and 9600 Epson printers. The workflow for the
> 2200 is released, the 7600/9600 workflow is under development (as of
> 5/22/04). The Roark Configuration inks and cartridges all start with
> UT7 as the first 3 digits of the part number. If you don't see this,
> you may have the other configuration.
> 
> * Bowhaus/QTR Configuration - We have Ultratone B&W inks
> specifically formulated to work with Bowhaus Inkjet Control and
> PrintMaker or with the Quadtone RIP software. Both of these
> applications are for Mac only. Bowhaus works with OS9 and Quadtone RIP
> works with OSX. These inks can not be used with the Epson driver. The
> set of 7 inks is a variable tone set that prints from full sepia to
> cool and anywhere in between. Both Photo Black and Eboni black are in
> the printer at the same time. The software controls which one is being
> used, while the other is shut off.
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2011, at 12:11 PM, John wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I messed around a little with QTR a couple years ago when I first  
> > tried
> > B&W printing. QTR was free at the time, but it looks like it's $50  
> > now.
> > Is the new version noticeably better ? Have they licked the metamerism
> > issue, even though the Epson inks are colored ?
> >
> > What about the option of the UT7 inks, no cartridge filling ? How much
> > better than QTR, with the Epson inks, is that ?
> >
> > Thanks for the help !
> >
> > John
> >
> > > John:
> > >
> > > You can get rather nice B&W images using QTR driver and the standard
> > > epson inks. Why not try that first, QTR is free to try.
> > >
> > > The 1400 is mentioned favourably, but you may have to mess around  
> > with
> > > filling cartridges to run it B&W. (filling cartridges isn't that  
> > bad!)
> > >
> > > Leslie Otterbein
> > >
> > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:57 PM, John wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope this question is not too open-ended ...
> > > >
> > > > I've had an Epson 2200 for awhile for color printing. I would like
> > > > to get into
> > > > B&W printing. Trying to read through the archives here, I am a bit
> > > > overwhelmed
> > > > with the choices; UT7, UT2, Eboni-6, etc. Not to mention the  
> > variety
> > > > of driver:
> > > > Epson's, QTR, OPM.
> > > >
> > > > So I'd like suggestions as to the best way for me to proceed  
> > towards
> > > > getting
> > > > good quality B&W prints. I would like some balance of simplicity  
> > and
> > > > quality.
> > > > I do not think I want to get into filling my own cartridges or
> > > > building my own
> > > > profiles; and I do not have a densitometer. I see the Epson 1400
> > > > highly
> > > > spoken of in some of the threads, and given its surprising low  
> > cost,
> > > > I would
> > > > consider switching to it if the consensus is that it's worth it.
> > > >
> >
> 
> Leslie Otterbein
> 
> web.me.com/lotterbein
> http://gallery.me.com/lotterbein#
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