Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
Ok I've read the thread and I sort of don't think you have your answer yet..  To get there first imagine yourself a painter.. (ok my piers don't laugh) If your doing snow you will put paint on the canvas.. but in our case we can't go whiter then the media so we need to pull back from the paper white to show texture.  So what I'm trying to say is your material selection is important.. Whatever your paper white is.. You must pull it back a tad to show texture.. keep your values of your smallest highlights at or just below your paper white .. Snow can be cool or warm ...depends on the light.. or shadow.. This is going to sound weird but your paper or canvas choice is really very important for this subject.. if we had white ink in our printers it would be easy but we don't.. What I'm trying to say is that if you choose a paper that is notably off white your in trouble.. as the job wants to be less then that so that you can show texture. I use an Innova paper for this type of scene..works for me and I know what to do with it. I'm not suggesting that you go there..Just pick one that works for you with a good white point and stick with that so you can be consistent.. You can bust your but in the puter getting it looking great but drop it on a few papers variations and you'll quickly see how fast you loose the magic if it's on the wrong paper. Snow is something that it's a good idea to watch your numbers on in Photoshop.. Once you know where they need to be for a particular paper it's easy.. 

jimbo
 ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: crepuscolino 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:56 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing Pictures of Snow


    
  Yes, I am foreseeing a lot of testing and fooling around. Especially since I am new to inkjet printing overall. Can you guys suggest some decent, and decently cheap, paper for proofs etc? I am drawn to thicker matte natural (as opposed to clinical white) papers, but as I am a complete beginner, I would welcome recommendations for all types of paper...

  Hope and look forward to being able to pay your help forward some day soon.

  Thanks!

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
  >
  > indeed ! Snow is no more blue than it is warm. White is not white. What
  > does the water guru tell the new photographer. Some things just need to be
  > your interpretation of it. There are some technical things, like when does
  > white or a highlight fail to show/hold detail? That is not so much personal
  > as device dependent; monitor representation and hard numbers along with
  > software and ink/paper. Go discover! 
  > 
  > Eric Neilsen
  > Eric Neilsen Photography
  > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
  > Dallas, TX 75226
  > 
  > www.ericneilsenphotography.com
  > skype me with ejprinter
  > Let's Talk Photography
  > 
  > _____ 
  > 
  > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael-K
  > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:13 PM
  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing Pictures of Snow
  > 
  > 
  > For snow, as with most other things, you need to do your own experimenting
  > to find your personal expression. Disregard the advice given here or
  > elsewhere about using cool or warm papers, ink, and so on. Try a little of
  > every combination you can put together and when you feel deeply satisfied
  > with your prints, that will be the proper combination of materials because
  > they will be helping you express your inner self. Just get busy and have fun
  > exploring.
  > 
  > 
  > 
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