Digital BW, The Print

I love it when you're pro-active Eric. Yes, a positive suggestion at last.

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From: E.Neilsen
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:27 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Photography That Doesn't Suck

Burning Man _ Camera , but with piles of old Ink Jet, cameras, etc. We make
a mass pilgrimage to some place in Utah, where pollution is highly accepted
and burn the holy cap out of the worthless, near worthless, make a make in
the deserts of the high plains. Video , FB, YouTube. .. Rant the F away
Tyler, I am with you : )

a giant incinerator..   We could of invite any number of well to do with
their gear and convince them it's all for a good cause.. take their gear and
throw it in.

Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226

www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
Let's Talk Photography

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tboleyyh
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:09 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Photography That Doesn't Suck


exactly.. precisely.. etc.. this is what I am seeing and experiencing as
well. But not only are accomplished artists competing with amateurs selling
on the budget market, even licensing their work for next to nothing for the
fun of it, but also "artists" not required to be viable financially because
they are otherwise funded.. spouses of the 1%, etc.
But I have to say.. in my experience photographers are their own worse
enemies.. particularly in the assignment world, accepting lower and lower
fees, giving away rights, giving up viable percentages of their stock,
thinking they will somehow be competetive.. no, now they are just broke..
and of course health insurance a myth from past legends around the camp
fire.
Perhaps photography that doesn't suck will be just dandy, and an exception,
but on line sharing I am seeing is being "curated" and hosted by people who
have no idea what they are talking about, and simultaneously providing,
knowingly or not (FB knows EXACTLY what they are doing) essentially a free
grab bag of content.
My friend Lauren Henkin just chewed out the flack photo dude in public to
the point he was speechless, and the growing crowd around gave her an
ovation at the wrap up...
You think he's even heard of, oh I don't know.. Samuel Bourne? Albert
Renger-Patzsch? Do you think he knows John Paul Caponigro has a dad..
living.. a master?

We're eating ourselves up from the inside out. Where's the cultural
continuity of our loved medium? The history?

Sorry for the rant.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , Walker Blackwell
wrote:
>
> As a digital printmaker and artist directly interested in and surviving
in, the art world, I'm extremely depressed by the current economic state of
affairs.
>
> That said, I think we can all adapt. Well, we'll have to. Lowering ones
overhead is key. I survived on $12,000 last year--personal rent and food
included in that number. That was so I could rebuild Black Point Editions
into a different organization more in-tune with what is going on in the
community.
>
> I print for a lot of big names. Many of them are struggling more than I
because they have lifestyles to live and health insurance to pay and
families to feed. They also have international shows to support and
galleries are not funding shipping and framing like they used to. Now you
can be in the top 200 of artists and have 5 huge shows a year and not be
able to afford a studio or health insurance while you can be a relatively
unknown artist selling to the budget market and making a handsome
> profit. It's all kinda crazy.
>
> In the end, I believe the people who buckle down and do the real work will
be fine when the dust settles. But we are also the people who will define
the landscape once that dust is settled. Either us or the wider financial
market that seems hell-bent on downward costs and lower profits for working
artists to the benefit of well-known galleries and art investors. There's a
perceptual fight to be had.
>
> Best,
> Walker
>



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