Digital BW, The Print

Philip..
First honest ..just relax.. it's not that way.. that is not how it works in the USA today.. I cannot speak for other countries but I feel just fine speaking for this one.. and it's credit card providers.. The way they are billing is on a monthly basis to you CC .. What I suggest you do is check out the rules, laws etc to this type of transaction.. and maybe who your credit card is with.. So constructively if they bumped the per month rate and failed to inform me of that change they don't get a dime in my arena.. and my credit card outfit (Chase Sapphire) will support that .. 

Constructively.. and please hear this... I'm a service provider to artists in the arts.. if I change my rate structure and fail to communicate it I'm screwed.. Same way on this scenario.. so my suggestion is to tell the goblins to go to bed and do what you can to enjoy the ride.. I am not suggesting that don't do due diligence  but I am suggesting that a lot of noise gets in the way of the ride. So maybe let it play out if you choose to step up..... or just forget the whole adventure if you choose not to.. and you can then figure out your next steps with out Adobe.. It's really that simple..

jimbo
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Philip Lindsay 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers


    

  Automatic renewal without knowing the rate is scary to me!! That means there is no advance warning if there is a price increase.



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  From: "michael3442@..." <michael3442@...>
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:48 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers



    
  Here's the relevant statement from their Terms & Conditions: " Renewal After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your contract based on the current price of the offering."


  See: http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/ccm_photoshop_app_offer.html



  ---In digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com, <mrjimbo@...> wrote:


  I'm sure that you are correct there Jim.. Nothing stays where it's at price wise.. So my guess is they'll feel the waters as they go. Their smart enough to know that if they raise the anti immediately after a one year subscription they will have a mass exodus.. I'm just not going to go nuts worrying about this. When the time comes I will choose to do what's right for me.. but no sense worrying about it now.

  jimbo
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jim Goshorn 
      To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:23 AM
      Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers


        


      On Nov 23, 2013, at 12:14 PM, jimbo wrote:


          
        Adobe has stated that the is not a one year deal they have stated indefinite ... which maybe 13 months...:-)
      As Adobe stated, the difference with the Photo offer is that unlike the Cloud offer for $19.95/month, which goes up to $50/month after the first year, they are not offering it with an automatic increase after the first year. Their intention is to keep it at $9.99/month as long as they can but they have not indicated it is a forever deal. It's a given that, like other services you get bills for, it will go up over time. 


      Jim
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