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just one more issue here I've not seen mentioned.. the newest LR version with the subscription requires the latest Mac OS.. so that's an additional cost, and how often? Add to that, how many of my other apps will not run on the newest OS, and will also need upgrading? I've been through this wringer a few times the last 5 to 10 years with the Mac and all of my apps, and it's not good. Not only the expense, but the times wasted constantly getting new things to work. I've wasted weeks on these kinds of transitions way too many times.

There's a lot to be said for an excellently performing system, even dated, just left alone. The problem is.. no one but the end user (me cranking out stuff on my antiquated system) can prosper from that... and THAT is why we are faced with this.

Tyler

---In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, <mrjimbo@...> wrote:

Ernst,

The path your taking is fine, especially if your not favorable to the moves that Adobe is taking.. The question does and will remain however if this path delivers what the other path would .. So that answer will always be up in the air.. having said that and your asking what others think about your not going the way of Adobe.. I would like to say this.

I was all geared up on my end to by pass Adobe's new way of doing business but it still bugged me as I was being a bit stubborn plus I will have to spend some bucks to go that route.. They then came out with the Photographers package which included PS CC, LR 5.2, Beyonce, 20Gb of storage that can be used as a drop or place for clients to get data and also a few freebee's like Bridge CC which interfaces with all CS 6 apps..and maybe older issues but I haven't tested that yet.. Anyway it's 9.99 a month so 120 bucks US for a year.. I did it simply for the test ride so that I can make a proper decision... I feel that if after that time I can live without it then I simply will but I also feel that this way I'll have all the facts and not be dealing with jimbo's stubborn streak.. If you choose to do that I especially feel it would be a good thing as you have chosen to walk both sides of the fence.. In the end you too would have all the tools necessary to make the perfect decision.. We are all doing this going different ways.. But to really compare and share we, in my opinion , need to know what's on both sides of the fence.. Your having PS 5.5 makes you eligible for the package.. so your call but just saying..ok?

Also not sure who here uses many plugins.. but Nik and OnOne and several others work very well with PS & LR and the improvements in smart objects in the latest version now allow the use of all the raw tools on tiff and similar files including non destructive editing.

jimbo

From: Ernst Dinkla

To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:34 AM

Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers

It could be a rough road I am heading for but I decided to skip the
Adobe offer and look for alternatives. Wonder what others think about
this move.

In short I have to learn RawTherapee. I use Qimage Ultimate as the base
for anything including filing and set the external image editor to Raw
Therapee. In many cases I can do the job from RAW/Tiff to print with
Qimage. If more control in RAW is needed I transfer the RAW to
RawTherapee. Do the job there and save a 16 bit Tiff back to the map
Qimage has open. If I need Photoshop CS 5.5 editing features I can
transfer the image to Photoshop with RawTherapee's external image editor
setting and save a 16 bit Tiff to Qimage's file map.

RawTherapee gives me Flat Field for RAW (bought Robin Meyer's
Equalight-3 a month ago :-( and has a good base for deconvolution
sharpening. Have to take Bart van der Wolf's optimising route in focus
compensation and focus/lens characterising for best quality. Lens
profiles from several sources are available that do not exist in
Qimage's RAW processing. The 96 bit development in RT is in my view
excellent for color control and geometric transformations. Both Qimage
rely on DCRAW and LCMS-2 so that may reduce surprises. I can run RT on
Windows and Ubuntu systems here.

For my own web/vector/sign/publishing needs I upgraded Xara Pro to its
latest incarnation Xara Designer Pro 9. The program I always went for
despite the installed Designer CS 5.5 package. Most what comes in from
Illustrator or InDesign is PDF and can go through either the Z3200-PS
route or get rasterized in Photoshop 5.5, the route I prefer to check
colors and avoid font issues.

--
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

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December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

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