Digital BW, The Print

Their  was a guy once.... FDR if I remember correctly... ..that once said "Only thing we have to fear is fear itself".. Ok that being said please let me share a few things.. The backwards compatibility issue will be no different then that we are being faced with today with all our pre cloud software.. PS 7 doesn't have a clue what to do with a raw file nor can it work with a layered document that contains smart objects as an example.. But we can rasterize those layers and save the job as a tiff file and open that job up in PS7.. The very same rules will apply. Also today we have png file types which have been developed in part for this very reason. To standardize all the ongoing file type changes.

As far as what Adobe does down the road with their pricing I , we , you have no control over that.. But if they want to sell product then they do need to price it appropriately.. If and when they decide to screw me I will deal with that at the time and make whatever decision is appropriate..I've been behaving like that all my life and see no need to stop that methodology now. In the interim I've decided to not dwell on the notion that Adobe is out to screw the world.. rather I simply see a company that has had more then it's fair share of issues and problems in recent years and that this move is an effort to change their business model.. In spite of all the noise going on something must be working right as their stock prices have shown favorably since they switched to this model.. I actually want Adobe to be successful.. The thought of them living day to day just sucks. 

So to close this I honestly get all the dis trust in Adobe.. but I don't feel it's well founded.. They as business owners get to choose their business model. We as consumers get to choose our suppliers and business partners.. It's no secret that the art market has been less then favorable the past few years. I am quite sure Adobe has felt the pain just like many of us. They have a responsibility to their customer base, their employees, their stock holders and the industries that they provide product for.. And finally.. a touch of reality.. Here we are print makers primarily.. generally speaking PS is over kill for processing images to the printer.. So in truth  probably many could live without PS.. and use alternate methods.. but some amount of us try to take images to a different level.. and for those maybe they need it.. Only we as individuals can sort that out.. Just sayin......

jimbo ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Castronovo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers


    

  I can imagine a time in the not too distant future where people might use some new features which are only in the cc version of LR. Then if those people drop out of the cc program and try to open those images in an older version of LR, those files which depend on the new features in cc may not open at all. There is no reason why Adobe should guarantee to make anything backward compatible or even tell us when it isn’t, so as time goes on, we’ll certainly become more and more dependent on the subscription model and they’ll be able to raise the stakes at will. Even so, I bit the bullet and went with their current 9.99 offer, but I’m nervous about what happens two years from now. As a community, users should be checking to make sure that we can still open files on older versions if we use new features as they are introduced. Then we can make an informed choice about whether or not to make files that are not backward compatible, just in case we need to drop out of the cloud for any reason years from now.


  From: jimbo 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:48 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers




  Hi Tina,
  If I may... :-).. The CC version and regular version of LR are virtually the same piece of software except that some code has been added to the CC version such that if it's not licensed it will expire if you quit the cloud program.. The only reason that is this way is due to the photographers package that was offered to all of us shooters as long as we have qualifying software.. 

  So in function if you go to your present license and click on check for upgrades you will get upgraded to version 5.2 or 5.3.. same as the CC version.. If you download the CC version it will install right over your present version 5.0.. you can't stop that .. but you could reinstall version 5.0 if you want to stay there but their really is no point in that.. The CC version does check your licensing path and it can tell if your a licensed user so when it upgrades you will still retain your present license.. your just facilitating your upgrade thru the cloud that all. So if you quit the cloud you can keep going and you won't have any issues with LR as long as your licensed. ok?  

  Lastly... Adobe has apparently put a firm deadline on those interested in the Photographers Package for 9.99.. That deal ends officially Dec 2nd according to the latest release on their site.

  
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