Digital BW, The Print

I think maybe were all getting caught up in the muck of all this.. Maybe 
it's time to get above that.. One of if not the largest single primary 
reason for Adobe going to the subscription model was to eliminate or curb 
piracy. In the past 3 or 4 years a different technology has been used to 
pirate software..They had virtually no way to stop it.. What's more they had 
to provide support for all the pirated software.. It was killing Autodesk 
and a subscription model was the only way they could figure out how to curb 
it.. I suppose they could go to a dongle but apparently that was not the way 
they wanted to go. This business model in one that I think we'll be looking 
at for some time.. If it doesn't work for us then it's time to move on and 
develop a new workflow or stick with earlier versions of the software.. We 
simply don't have the right to tell them how to run their business.

jimbo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Castronovo" <jc@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers


> Right, so what's really different is how we pay for it. New versions in 
> this
> century were ALWAYS available for download, but we had to pay a lot for 
> them
> and now we pay monthly whether we do an upgrade or not. As I see it, how 
> we
> pay is the only difference, so I don't see the frequency and ease of 
> updates
> as a feature they can market as a benefit.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jim Goshorn
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:43 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photoshop Create Cloud program for photographers
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:23 AM, John Castronovo wrote:
>
>> I can barely remember having to wait for an update to arrive in the mail.
>> In the 21st century almost all of my software has been downloaded and it
>> was ready just as soon as the company released it, so there\ufffds no
>> difference between that and Adobe\ufffds cc updates except for how we pay for
>> it.
>
> The big difference, as I understand it, is that traditionally, Adobe would
> release a new version and then all the updates would basically be bug and
> compatibility fixes until the next version. The traditional perpetual
> license fell under certain regulations which prevented the adding of
> features between releases. Now, with the cloud, they will also be able to
> add new features as they go along instead of waiting for a new version to
> release them since it falls under a subscription model.
>
> Jim
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