Nij, I received info from a very reliable source that Epson will be offering a grayscale inkset for their new printers. I was given this info yesterday morning. I know nothing else but look at it as another potential player. Regards, Michael J. Kravit Architect/Photographer Boca Raton, Florida www.kravit.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Nij To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 11:14 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] The Edge, was FS-N part II > -----Original Message----- > From: jimhayes361 [mailto:jimhayes@...] > > Yes, I read that link to Phil Askeys DPreview site that the Japenese > gentlemen wrote (somewhere back a day or two posted on this list), and > it was tantalizing. He was saying something about the ink Epson was > making for the printer being: Pigment not dye, individully > changeable (7 discrete carts), and most mysterious, he alluded to > something like Epson was making optional carts to switch out for the > black/grey/(?) color carts in some positions, to allow B&W....if I > interpret his comments right. > Wonderful if true. I can't believe after all this that Epson marketing > just had their collective I.Q. raised<g>. > > 3rd parties will certainly take advantage of that 7th slot. Wonder if > Epson will give up on upping the ante on chipping carts, and truely > follow if you can't beat em join em. Jim, I really don't know... and I don't normally like to get caught up in such speculation - these things get found out a few weeks or months After a product is released, not before (so often, those pre-release spec sheets say ... subject to change... on them :( HOWEVER, If Epson are releasing a printer with 7 separate carts, we have to assume they are following the C80 - every darn cart has a chip model. Secondly, they will use an 'alternative' 7th cart as an excuse to introduce a fourth or fifth kind of chip... am I correct in thinking we have chips that report 'dye ink' (870, 1270, 1280 etc), 'pigment ink' (2000P), dye ink (810), durabrite ink (C80)<big question mark on this>... and so I would asume we'll soon have '7th colour yellow durabrite' '7th colour grey durabrite' chips, and so on. Perhaps I am being overly cynical. But I still can't quite figure out the 'it's cheaper if you have lots of carts' sales-pitch (supposedly on the basis of less wasted ink) when the cart-sets cost twice as much as the previous two we had to buy. Factor in that most business graphics will use four-colour printers, and use primary-type colours for graphics (thus balancing out the inks consumed)... and 'photo printers' will mostly be used for photos... thus balancing out the ink usage, and I simply can't see how this could be cost effective for the consumer. BUT... I ain't done the maths! Take care, have a nice Sunday everyone! nij Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] The Edge, was FS-N part II
2002-03-10 by Michael Kravit
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