Digital BW, The Print

But if they aren't available in bulk, at MIS prices, who's going to care?

Jerry

Michael Kravit wrote:

> Nij,
>
> I received info from a very reliable source that Epson will be offering a grayscale inkset for their new printers. I was given this info yesterday morning. I know nothing else but look at it as another potential player.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael J. Kravit
> Architect/Photographer
> Boca Raton, Florida
> www.kravit.net
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Nij
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 11:14 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Digital BW] The Edge, was FS-N part II
>
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: jimhayes361 [mailto:jimhayes@...]
>   >
>   > Yes, I read that link to Phil Askeys DPreview site that the Japenese
>   > gentlemen wrote (somewhere back a day or two posted on this list), and
>   >  it was tantalizing. He was saying something about the ink Epson was
>   > making for the printer being:  Pigment not dye, individully
>   > changeable (7 discrete carts), and most mysterious, he alluded to
>   > something like Epson was making optional carts to switch out for the
>   > black/grey/(?) color carts in some positions, to allow B&W....if I
>   > interpret his comments right.
>   > Wonderful if true. I can't believe after all this that Epson marketing
>   > just had their collective I.Q. raised<g>.
>   >
>   > 3rd parties will certainly take advantage of that 7th slot. Wonder if
>   > Epson will give up on upping the ante on chipping carts, and truely
>   > follow if you can't beat em join em.
>
>   Jim,
>
>   I really don't know... and I don't normally like to get caught up in such
>   speculation - these things get found out a few weeks or months After a
>   product is released, not before (so often, those pre-release spec sheets say
>   ... subject to change... on them :(
>
>   HOWEVER, If Epson are releasing a printer with 7 separate carts, we have to
>   assume they are following the C80 - every darn cart has a chip model.
>
>   Secondly, they will use an 'alternative' 7th cart as an excuse to introduce
>   a fourth or fifth kind of chip... am I correct in thinking we have chips
>   that report 'dye ink' (870, 1270, 1280 etc), 'pigment ink' (2000P), dye ink
>   (810), durabrite ink (C80)<big question mark on this>... and so I would
>   asume we'll soon have '7th colour yellow durabrite' '7th colour grey
>   durabrite' chips, and so on.
>
>   Perhaps I am being overly cynical. But I still can't quite figure out the
>   'it's cheaper if you have lots of carts' sales-pitch (supposedly on the
>   basis of less wasted ink) when the cart-sets cost twice as much as the
>   previous two we had to buy. Factor in that most business graphics will use
>   four-colour printers, and use primary-type colours for graphics (thus
>   balancing out the inks consumed)... and 'photo printers' will mostly be used
>   for photos... thus balancing out the ink usage, and I simply can't see how
>   this could be cost effective for the consumer.  BUT... I ain't done the
>   maths!
>
>   Take care, have a nice Sunday everyone!
>
>   nij
>
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