Well ok I guess here we go.. LOLL.. David your taking this all personal which really stops it from being a constructive event.. Not Kool dude. Ok so I'm going agree with some of what you said.. "Not we" .. absolutely true.. "Your not a shooter".. well you dialed it in .. I think more of myself then that. As far as lumping.. well my business model is quite different then Lik's .. but that doesn't mean I think his is bad .. what I do know about his business model is that it's a huge responsibility.. and that's true.. I think you do take your profession seriously. I mean that .. if I didn't think that I wouldn't be screwing with you right now.. that's true so somehow we got off on the wrong foot.. Sorry but I insist I stand on my feet, not yours. As far as fabricating auctions etc.. I'll simply say prove it.. Simple talk will not work at this level.. ok? If you really want to be a hero pull up some evidence of that behavior or shelf it.. As far as your comment on no secondary market.. well I don't think you know how their sales environment is set up.. He's modeled his business , right wrong or indifferent after Thomas Mangelsen.. So presently his galleries all 14 of them are focused on controlling the entire sales of all the art work .. so not a secondary market as yet .. Thomas went that way also but found that wasn't workable especially after the art market headed south and he had to shut a few galleries down.. Lek is attempting to stay exclusive to his galleries and hold pricing to keep it stable.. If he pulls that off for what it worth he'll deserve sum kudo's as he protecting his buyers investments .. To be honest I think he's funding that to a degree. Maybe that where the 6 mil went.. I have no clue. I can tell you when Mangelsen went thru this and had to shut some galleries down and then go to secondary markets.. it was tough for him and his family as they had really invested heavily in dedicated galleries. Anyway.. to sum up.. There are many artists that I'm not a fan of their work or them.. but nothing is personal about it.. I'm just in another place.. You have anger and resentment towards Lek and I doubt you even know him.. What's up with that? Ru that stuck on being right? Common.. I got your feelings and opinions about artists that sell art work for lots of money. I did get it . Were in the bleachers and truth is we have no clue what's really going on sometimes down on the field... It's all informational and that's maybe all it should be. Maybe it's just the way the press broke it loose that got it screwed up.. Getting all emotional over what we thing we know is dead wrong.. I just can't go there. Don't have the time for that. Sorry if I've disappointed you .. didn't mean too , honest..otay? jimbo From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:19 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] what do you think? I think it's truly acceptable to buy as an investment. I certainly would not deny anyone the right to do that. But for that to be the primary motivation.! That's what leads to people like the topic of this thread, and swindlers of all stripes. I've had people spill the beans right in front of me, in all innocence, admitting they were buying my work as an investment, thinking I might agree with them. It is disheartening to realize that someone buying your work cannot see what is right in front of them and could just as easily be buying pork futures. Of course, the ideal revenge would be to suggest to them that the best investment would be one of Lik's photographs. ;-) David Kachel ___________________ Artist-Photographer Fine B&W Photographs WEBSITE: www.davidkachel.com BLOG: thetransparentphotographer.com EMAIL: david@... PO Box 93 Fort Davis, TX 79734 (432) 386-5787 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] what do you think?
2014-12-22 by Jim Bechtel
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