This is the label from the Arches I use: [image: Inline image 1] Also on line at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Arches-label.jpg . Ernst wrote: "... On Velin Arches Blanc Natural Grain Marquee 300 gsm which has a Lab 96.2 0.8 6.9 the Eboni 1+5 OCP Kodak Gloss Optimizer brushed on gave a patch measured Lab 27.6 0.7 2.1. So a dark grey patch near neutral while the paper is a warm one. Measured with a non-UV cut Eye One Pro." If I am reading this right, the Lab B dropped from 6.9 for the paper white to 2.1 for the 1:5 Eboni:OCP dilution, applied by a brush. With a similar dilution of Eboni with the generic base version C6c, I get 37, 1.6, 2.4 on a paper with a white reading of 95, 0.7, 2.7. With an older Calibration print the 18% (Eb6M) Eboni to total base + ink concentration at the 75% patch measures 27, 1.1, 2.2. (Spyder 3 color meter) I'm not sure I've ever seen a reduction of the Lab B in actual printing aside from the 100% black point. So, if you're actually seeing a cooling of the tone in an area aside from an area of very dense coverage, something interesting may be going on. I wonder what that OPC gloss optimizer has in it. The MIS version has a binder in it. That is what allows their non-coated pigments to stick to the paper. I believe the Epson gloss optimizer might have clear particles in it. Something that stays on top of the paper has to be in a gloss optimizer for it to do its job. So, the questions I would have about the OCP GO are: What is in it, and will that substance change with time and light exposure? Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Ernst Dinkla ernst.dinkla@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > wrote: > > > Paul, > > I guess the paper is called Arches Aquarelle Grain Satiné 300gr/m2 56x76 > cm in Europe. There is often an English and French description on the > labels, is it correct what I wrote here? > > > Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst > > Dinkla Grafische Techniek > Quad, piëzografie, giclée > www.pigment-print.com > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... > [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] < > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> I would stay away from the "blocks" of Arches. The one I tried had a low >> dmax and the edge had to be cut off to avoid printer damage. >> >> I prefer the Arches Hot Press Bright White (not really very bright and >> prints just like the standard) 140 lb. (300 gsm) in "full sheets" -- 22x30 >> inches (approximately). See >> http://www.dickblick.com/products/arches-bright-white-watercolor-paper/ >> >> Paul >> www.PaulRoark.com >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, richard@... >> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] < >> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Paul, is this the uncoated water color paper you use and recommend? I'm >>> going to give it a try when I get back from visiting family this week. >>> >>> Arches Watercolor Block 140 Pound Hot Press Paper - 9 x 12 Sheets >>> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015UI1XW/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015UI1XW&linkCode=as2&tag=blaandwhimas-20&linkId=3EJ5BEAOFD2AOKOZ> >>> [image: image] >>> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015UI1XW/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015UI1XW&linkCode=as2&tag=blaandwhimas-20&linkId=3EJ5BEAOFD2AOKOZ> >>> Arches Watercolor Block 140 Pound Hot Press Paper - 9... >>> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015UI1XW/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015UI1XW&linkCode=as2&tag=blaandwhimas-20&linkId=3EJ5BEAOFD2AOKOZ> >>> Shop Arches at the Amazon Arts, Crafts & Sewing store. Free Shipping on >>> eligible items. Save on everyday low prices. >>> View on www.amazon.com >>> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015UI1XW/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015UI1XW&linkCode=as2&tag=blaandwhimas-20&linkId=3EJ5BEAOFD2AOKOZ> >>> Preview by Yahoo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: placing a collective order to MIS/inksupply from Germany
2014-12-26 by Paul Roark
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