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Re: [Digital BW] Re: placing a collective order to MIS/inksupply from Germany

2014-12-29 by Ernst Dinkla

It looks like the Bright White version of the Arches Aquarelle Grain Satiné is not available in The Netherlands, is it available in Germany or another European country? Or is this a label description flaw?


Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

Dinkla Grafische Techniek
Quad, piëzografie, giclée
www.pigment-print.com

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This is the label from the Arches I use:

[image: Inline image 1]

Also on line at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Arches-label.jpg .

Ernst wrote: "... On Velin Arches Blanc Natural Grain Marquee 300 gsm which
has a Lab 96.2 0.8 6.9 the Eboni 1+5 OCP Kodak Gloss Optimizer brushed on
gave a patch measured Lab 27.6 0.7 2.1. So a dark grey patch near neutral
while the paper is a warm one. Measured with a non-UV cut Eye One Pro."

If I am reading this right, the Lab B dropped from 6.9 for the paper white
to 2.1 for the 1:5 Eboni:OCP dilution, applied by a brush.

With a similar dilution of Eboni with the generic base version C6c, I get
37, 1.6, 2.4 on a paper with a white reading of 95, 0.7, 2.7. With an
older Calibration print the 18% (Eb6M) Eboni to total base + ink
concentration at the 75% patch measures 27, 1.1, 2.2. (Spyder 3 color
meter)

I'm not sure I've ever seen a reduction of the Lab B in actual printing
aside from the 100% black point. So, if you're actually seeing a cooling
of the tone in an area aside from an area of very dense coverage, something
interesting may be going on.

I wonder what that OPC gloss optimizer has in it. The MIS version has a
binder in it. That is what allows their non-coated pigments to stick to
the paper. I believe the Epson gloss optimizer might have clear particles
in it. Something that stays on top of the paper has to be in a gloss
optimizer for it to do its job. So, the questions I would have about the
OCP GO are: What is in it, and will that substance change with time and
light exposure?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Ernst Dinkla ernst.dinkla@gmail.com
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com


> wrote:

>
>
> Paul,
>
> I guess the paper is called Arches Aquarelle Grain Satiné 300gr/m2 56x76
> cm in Europe. There is often an English and French description on the
> labels, is it correct what I wrote here?
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
>
> Dinkla Grafische Techniek
> Quad, piëzografie, giclée
> www.pigment-print.com
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Paul Roark roark.paul@...
> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I would stay away from the "blocks" of Arches. The one I tried had a low
>> dmax and the edge had to be cut off to avoid printer damage.
>>
>> I prefer the Arches Hot Press Bright White (not really very bright and
>> prints just like the standard) 140 lb. (300 gsm) in "full sheets" -- 22x30
>> inches (approximately). See
>> http://www.dickblick.com/products/arches-bright-white-watercolor-paper/
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, richard@...
>> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <
>> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul, is this the uncoated water color paper you use and recommend? I'm
>>> going to give it a try when I get back from visiting family this week.
>>>
>>> Arches Watercolor Block 140 Pound Hot Press Paper - 9 x 12 Sheets
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>>> [image: image]
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