Digital BW, The Print

For Ernst
Pending order
The goal is MK + Grey + 1/2Grey +1/4 Grey

OK for "I could send you a picture of how to do that"
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Le 16/09/2015 12:53, Ernst Dinkla ernst.dinkla@... 
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] a �crit :
> Daniel,
>
> I think you could use bigger carts like the 130 ML carts of the Z3200 
> series. Replace the caps that hold the chip, it is all quite universal 
> for HP carts throughout most Designjet models. The HP cartridges can 
> be adapted for refilling too, the more as they are vertically inserted 
> on the 500, filling them on the printer is not difficult either then.. 
> Check Ebay for original HP Nr 70 carts that are expired, a cheap 
> source and for this purpose good enough. You can even put the ink bag 
> in an ultrasonic bath to give it a good refreshing mix.
>
> If you only want to print on matte then a set  of Vivera pigment MK + 
> PK + 1/3PK +1/9PK is still possible, all 4 can be used. The PK then 
> somewhat too dense for a quad set but if you select the High Quality 
> Greyscale? mode (that mixes all the CMY channels for all the grey 
> levels) it is not bad either which can be handy as some applications 
> will not have Color Management to use curves or profiles. However 
> better results with driver color mode + color managent +  the 
> appropriate partitioning Photoshop curves/profiles for a given paper 
> quality. Another set, something like MK + 1/2PK + 1/4PK + 1/12PK (Paul 
> will have better figures) may be wiser than using Light Grey ink, 
> cheaper in use. If it has to be a Grey ink then use the Grey ink say 
> like this: MK + Grey + 1/2Grey +1/4 Grey (Paul may have better figures 
> again). Only printing in driver color mode with a matte media setting 
> you will need curves then to get the right partitioned lay down of the 
> grey inks.
>
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
>
> Dinkla Grafische Techniek
> Quad, pi�zografie, gicl�e
> www.pigment-print.com <http://www.pigment-print.com>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM, daniel andron daniel.andron@... 
> <mailto:daniel.andron@...> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] 
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
>     Merci Paul et Ernst,
>
>
>     I try purchasing 4 empty cartridges HP10 and HP82.
>     Vivera light gray on cyan
>     Magenta and yellow on dilution with kodak optimizer.
>     I'll post the results after testing ..
>     Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>     Le 14/09/2015 17:57, Ernst Dinkla ernst.dinkla@...
>     <mailto:ernst.dinkla@...> [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] a
>     �crit :
>>     Daniel,
>>
>>
>>     http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00748239.pdf
>>     says 18 picoliter droplet for the black head, 4 picoliter droplet
>>     for the color nozzles.
>>
>>     I have used the HP Z3200 Vivera pigment MK (matte black) ink in a
>>     similar 88 black head of the HP K5400 OfficeJet. But 9 picoliter
>>     droplet on the black side, possibly 6 picoliter on yellow. Cyan
>>     and magenta are 6 picoliter.
>>     In the cyan channel of that printer the Z3200 Vivera pigment PK
>>     (photo black), on the magenta channel a 1/3 dilution of the PK,
>>     on the yellow channel a 1/9 dilution of the PK. Tweaked the
>>     channels with Photoshop ACV curves later on packed in an ICC
>>     profile together with a linearisation curve (Paul Roark + Roy to
>>     thank for these features). Matte (4ink), Gloss (3ink). Printing
>>     from Qimage Ultimate + Windows driver.
>>     Ink medium to dilute the PK:
>>     http://www.octopus-office.de/en/shop/details/c/printer-ink-for-kodak-10-c/p/ocp-gloss-optimizer-for-kodak-10-c/
>>     Both inks and ink medium are intended for the thermal heads that
>>     the mentioned HP models have.
>>
>>     I have done this experiment on the desktop model to see whether
>>     it would be possible on a 4 to 6 channel Designjet later on. I am
>>     quite convinced it would be possible. Main problem is the bigger
>>     droplet size of Designjets (other than the Z versions and the
>>     130, 90 etc serie that have droplets 4-6 picoliter).
>>
>>
>>
>>     Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla
>>
>>     Dinkla Grafische Techniek
>>     Quad, pi�zografie, gicl�e
>>     www.pigment-print.com <http://www.pigment-print.com>
>>
>>     On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:35 PM, daniel andron
>>     daniel.andron@... <mailto:daniel.andron@...>
>>     [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
>>     <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>>     <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello from France,
>>         I bought hp 500 for 1 $.
>>         But i print always B/W on matt paper.
>>         Also i want put black pigment ink in HP82 cartridge (C M Y).
>>         Head for hp10 (black) 32 pico/l.
>>         Head for hp82 color 4 pico/l.
>>
>>         Is Black Vivera or Ebony for Epson 1500 (1.5 pico/l) is good ?
>>
>>         Thank
>>
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