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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo

2002-03-21 by Paul Roark

Vinny,

Tell me what platform you use -- Mac or PC -- and I'll send the info sheet
and curves.

Paul
  -----Original Message-----
  From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@...]
  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:09 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo


  ---
  Paul
  Thank you for the info. Your work is beautifull. Hope I get there
  soon. Question: where can I get the info sheets you mentioned

  Vinny





  In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...>
  wrote:
  > Vinny,
  >
  > The VM-sepia should work fine in your 1200.
  >
  > To use the variable-tone system, you continue to edit in
  grayscale.  When
  > you are ready to print, save the g/s file, convert the file to RGB,
  load a
  > tone curve (the screen will no longer be WYSIWYG), and print
  through the
  > Epson driver.  (A Photoshop "action" can make this a one-button
  process.)
  >
  > The workflow is described is some detail in information sheets I
  have.
  >
  > Since MIS only sells the VM-sepia in bulk, you'll need to load
  carts or use
  > a CFS/CIS.
  >
  > Paul
  >
  > _______________________
  >
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
  >   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 PM
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage
  photo
  >
  >
  >   ---
  >   Paul-great print, I am new to this MIS as I have been printing
  with
  >   Piezo for about a year now and am wondering if I can use the
  sepia in
  >   an Epson 1200 with your curves. If so when and where are the
  curves
  >   applied. Like I said I am new to the MIS but have been thinking
  about
  >   tring them. I am not dissatified with the Piezo but do not have
  good
  >   control over tones.
  >
  >   Thanks
  >   Vinny
  >
  >
  >
  >   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
  <paul.roark@v...>
  >   wrote:
  >   > David,
  >   >
  >   > You wrote:
  >   >
  >   > >A beautiful rendition. Stunning light and atmosphere.
  >   > >Well done indeed!
  >   >
  >   > Thank you.
  >   >
  >   > >... How does the inkset you used behave using Piezo?
  >   >
  >   > The Piezo driver can't vary the tone, and with this inkset it
  will
  >   give a
  >   > very bad distribution of tones.  The toner in a 3000 is in the
  >   yellow cart,
  >   > which is the lightest gray ink in the Piezo system.  So, you'd
  end
  >   up with
  >   > sepia highlights and Piezo color midtones.
  >   >
  >   > >Could I use Piezo for neutral prints and your curves for
  >   > >alternatives? I currently have only a 3000.
  >   >
  >   > The new FS-Neutral and the VM-Sepia use the same black and cyan
  >   inks.  So,
  >   > you could simply switch the yellow and magenta ink carts, do 3
  >   cleaning
  >   > cycles and have the new inkset pretty much ready to go.
  >   >
  >   > Or, you could mix the FS-Sepia and use the Piezo driver.  I've
  >   published a
  >   > rough formula for the FS-sepia.  It is a bit stronger than what
  I
  >   used for
  >   > the Mission print, but its gamut can be reduced to whatever you
  >   like by
  >   > mixing the inks with standard MIS FS inks.
  >   >
  >   > Of course, it's a lot easier just to use the MIS VM-sepia inkset
  >   and not
  >   > mess with changing inks.  The inkset produces a very neutral
  >   grayscale with
  >   > the toner withheld.  So, the range of the VM-Sepia is real
  >   impressive --
  >   > neutral to sepia and everything in between.
  >   >
  >   > Whether you would be happy with the 3000's driver is a question
  of
  >   how
  >   > sensitive you are to dots.  For my 16x20s the Epson dots are
  >   irrelevant.
  >   > For small prints, I might not be as happy with the 3000 and the
  >   Epson
  >   > driver.
  >   >
  >   > Paul
  >   > http://www.PaulRoark.com
  >
  >
  >
  >
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