Austin & Keith, I have copied two postings from another list on this subject. Since they are fairly detailed I'll put them in separate postings:- Posting 1 "I ran some tests soon after buying my 1270 printer, over 18 months ago, which were similar to those which Bob mentions, except that I also printed swatches of different tones as well, just in case there was a difference in the resampling due to the ink density. Although I did find resampling occurring, I found no evidence of it changing as a function of ink density, which also indicated that the dithering was very random. The resampling pitch I found was 720ppi in both horizontal and vertical axes - which is quite surprising given that the printer is capable of 1440ppi in one direction and the horizontal lines were more clearly defined than the vertical lines. The proof of this was quite simple really. Proceed as Bob outlined above with a line pattern of vertical and horizontal lines one pixel wide, increasing the dpi of the test image at each run (resampling switched off in Photoshop so that only a size change occurs). Eventually, distortion will begin to appear due to aliasing. Initially this is quite subtle, since only the harmonics of the pixels are being aliased by the resampling process. However, eventually, the aliased component becomes the dominant part of the image as the fundamental increases beyond half of the resampling rate and higher ppi input simply results in coarser line patterns. In my tests, which I still have copies of, this "reflection" occurred at exactly 720ppi, or a fundamental frequency for the line patterns of 360cycles per inch. So the print at 750ppi produced identical line pitches as the print at 690ppi and a print at 1080ppi produced identical pitches to the print at 360ppi. Clearly the "quality" of the lines differed, depending on where the harmonics of the fundamental were aliased to and what phase they occurred at, but it is the fundamental which is easiest to see and use to identify the resampling rate. So the maximum spatial frequency which the printer can reproduce without aliasing is 360cycles per inch and, by Nyquist's Theorem, the resampling rate is simply double this maximum spatial frequency - 720ppi. I suspect that the main effect that Bob is seeing at lower resolution tests is aliasing of the harmonics of his line patterns. A square wave, such as the line pattern, has harmonics at odd multiples (3x, 5x, 7x, etc.) of the fundamental. Hence at 180ppi the finest lines are 90lppi, which have harmonics at 270, 450, 630cy/in. Clearly, however, the 5th harmonic exceeds the resolution of the printer and aliasing results - reflecting exactly onto the 3rd harmonic and reinforcing it. Whilst this does not affect the line pitch and size, it does affect the "quality" and uniformity of the lines. However it is important to remember that these harmonics are not part of the actual image, but a characteristic of the low pixel density - the highest spatial frequency of the image that 180ppi can reproduce is 90cy/in. The harmonics are a consequence of pixelation and generally the intention is to minimise pixelation. So I would argue that the MINIMUM pixel density to print for photorealism is where the third harmonic is well beyond the resolution limit of the printer. For the x70 series this occurs at 240ppi. The maximum is clearly at 720ppi, since the printer will downsample to that pixel density anyway. Typically I print at 360ppi (where, coincidentally, the first harmonic aliases back onto the fundamental) but occasionally go up to 480ppi (where the first harmonic aliases back to 0cy/in) for some images with a lot of fine detail in them. Usually however I don't make any effort to print at an exact ppi rating if it falls between these densities and rely on the stochastic dither to do its work. -- Kennedy" Bob Frost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > > Where did you get that information from? I believe this has been a refuted > myth, at least as far as today's Epson printers go. > > > Ergo, the magic numbers for a 1270/870 are 360, 480, and 720 dpi... (at > > 1440 dpi print resolution) or for a 1280 at 1440 dpi print resolution > > I do not believe there are any magic numbers for printer resolution in many > of today's printers, and certainly not Epsons. It is entirely dependant on > the printer driver, and what halftone algorithm is being used. > > > The printer driver will resize images anyway. The reason for sending > > images in 1/2 and 1/3 multiples is to avoid problems with artifact > > creation when the driver resizes.. > > Have you personally seen these? I have an 1160, 3000 and 1270. I have > tried the magic resolution theory hundreds of times, with both the Epson > driver and the Cone Piezo driver (on the 1160 and 3000), and neither I, or > anyone I've shown prints to, can see a difference in odd resolutions vs > "magic" resolutions. Also, others that I've suggested perform this test > have come to the same conclusion. > > Resizing the image to make the "magic" resolutions degrades the image data. > When you print, as you seem to know, the driver has to run an algorithm on > the data to determine the halftone patterns. Why process the image data > twice, instead of just once?
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Re: [Digital BW] Combing cure -- change size after the curves are applied
2002-03-22 by Bob Frost
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