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Re: [Digital BW] Comparison between MIS inks

2002-03-22 by btmcelhaney

Thanks, Paul.  At last I understand some of the differences. Hope 
everyone here understands what an invaluable resource you are.  Hope 
MIS appreciates what you do for their sales . . .


Bruce McElhaney
McElhaney Portrait Studio
Livonia, MI


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >Paul, could you tell us that is the difference between the basic 
MIS
> >inks and the MIS FS inks. All I could glean out of the MIS website 
is
> >that the FS inks are a different formula. In other words, what does
> >the Full spectrum thing mean in real terms.
> 
> The original MIS quads are dilutions of the MIS Archival black 
ink.  That
> ink is only about 95% as dark as the MIS VM/FS black ink.  It also 
warms
> more.  It is about as good in terms of fading, however.  The MIS 
quads are
> also the warmer than the FS inks.  See the comparison below.  And, 
of
> course, there are density differences between the midtones such 
that the
> original quads are used with the Brandin or other workflow aimed at 
them.
> They will not work with the Piezo software or the VM curves.
> 
> The FS inkset is made from the FS/VM black.  My tests show that 
black warms
> slightly less and more slowly than most that I've tested.  As such, 
it is
> also the base for the FS-N and the VM-Sepia inks, which I've 
designed not
> only to be more neutral but also to minimize the warming.  The FS 
inks are
> also designed for the Piezo software.  For the quad machines there 
are also
> free Epson driver workflows that work very well with them.  With 
hextone
> machines, however, only the Piezo driver currently works.
> 
> I hope this helps clarify the differences.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Moreno,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > >I'm trying to get an idea of the colour differences between the
> MIS FS
> > >regular and the FS Neutral before investing in the inks. I've 
used
> the MIS
> > >Quads in the past, so this would be my reference point. Can 
anyone
> describe
> > >the differences between the FS inks and the original quads? 
Better
> yet, are
> > >there any online images which illustrate the relative 
differences?
> TIA.
> >
> > (We should get some images posted, but I'm afraid it hasn't been
> done yet.)
> >
> > Let me give you some relative numbers.  I judge "warmth" by
> measuring the
> > difference between the scanner red and blue readings or the
> densitometer's
> > cyan and yellow readings.  So, I end up with a single number that
> gives me
> > an idea of relative "warmth."  With that methodology in mind, here
> are rough
> > comparisons:
> >
> > MIS = 13 units warm
> > FS = 8 units warm
> > FS-N = -2 units warm (that is, its 2 units cool).
> >
> > These numbers are averages from EAM samples.  They should not be
> considered
> > the last word, as I am working from memory.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com

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