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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo

2002-03-23 by Paul Roark

Della,

I e-mail the information sheet and curves for the printer and computer (PC
or Mac) as requested.  The information sheet explains how the variable-tone
system works and has the settings for the particular printer/platform in
question, among other things.

Paul

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-----Original Message-----
From: della ellingson [mailto:dellaellingson@...]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:58 PM
To: bw
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel - new sepia webpage photo


Paul,

Do you have these sheets on your website?


-della


> Paul,
> I use a PC running PS6.01
>
>
> Thanks a Million
> Vinny
>
>
>
> In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...>
> wrote:
>> Vinny,
>>
>> Tell me what platform you use -- Mac or PC -- and
I'll send the
> info sheet
>> and curves.
>>
>> Paul
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:09 AM
>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
new sepia webpage
> photo
>>
>>
>>   ---
>>   Paul
>>   Thank you for the info. Your work is beautifull.
Hope I get there
>>   soon. Question: where can I get the info sheets
you mentioned
>>
>>   Vinny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...>
>>   wrote:
>>> Vinny,
>>>
>>> The VM-sepia should work fine in your 1200.
>>>
>>> To use the variable-tone system, you continue to
edit in
>>   grayscale.  When
>>> you are ready to print, save the g/s file, convert
the file to
> RGB,
>>   load a
>>> tone curve (the screen will no longer be WYSIWYG),
and print
>>   through the
>>> Epson driver.  (A Photoshop "action" can make this
a one-button
>>   process.)
>>>
>>> The workflow is described is some detail in
information sheets I
>>   have.
>>>
>>> Since MIS only sells the VM-sepia in bulk, you'll
need to load
>>   carts or use
>>> a CFS/CIS.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________
>>>
>>>
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: vinyo88 [mailto:orlandovl@h...]
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 PM
>>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>>>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Mission San Miguel -
new sepia
> webpage
>>   photo
>>>
>>>
>>>   ---
>>>   Paul-great print, I am new to this MIS as I have
been printing
>>   with
>>>   Piezo for about a year now and am wondering if I
can use the
>>   sepia in
>>>   an Epson 1200 with your curves. If so when and
where are the
>>   curves
>>>   applied. Like I said I am new to the MIS but
have been
> thinking
>>   about
>>>   tring them. I am not dissatified with the Piezo
but do not
> have
>>   good
>>>   control over tones.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>   Vinny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul
Roark"
>>   <paul.roark@v...>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A beautiful rendition. Stunning light and
atmosphere.
>>>>> Well done indeed!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>> ... How does the inkset you used behave using
Piezo?
>>>>
>>>> The Piezo driver can't vary the tone, and with
this inkset
> it
>>   will
>>>   give a
>>>> very bad distribution of tones.  The toner in a
3000 is in
> the
>>>   yellow cart,
>>>> which is the lightest gray ink in the Piezo
system.  So,
> you'd
>>   end
>>>   up with
>>>> sepia highlights and Piezo color midtones.
>>>>
>>>>> Could I use Piezo for neutral prints and your
curves for
>>>>> alternatives? I currently have only a 3000.
>>>>
>>>> The new FS-Neutral and the VM-Sepia use the same
black and
> cyan
>>>   inks.  So,
>>>> you could simply switch the yellow and magenta
ink carts,
> do 3
>>>   cleaning
>>>> cycles and have the new inkset pretty much ready
to go.
>>>>
>>>> Or, you could mix the FS-Sepia and use the Piezo
driver.
> I've
>>>   published a
>>>> rough formula for the FS-sepia.  It is a bit
stronger than
> what
>>   I
>>>   used for
>>>> the Mission print, but its gamut can be reduced
to whatever
> you
>>>   like by
>>>> mixing the inks with standard MIS FS inks.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it's a lot easier just to use the MIS
VM-sepia
> inkset
>>>   and not
>>>> mess with changing inks.  The inkset produces a
very neutral
>>>   grayscale with
>>>> the toner withheld.  So, the range of the
VM-Sepia is real
>>>   impressive --
>>>> neutral to sepia and everything in between.
>>>>
>>>> Whether you would be happy with the 3000's driver
is a
> question
>>   of
>>>   how
>>>> sensitive you are to dots.  For my 16x20s the
Epson dots are
>>>   irrelevant.
>>>> For small prints, I might not be as happy with
the 3000 and
> the
>>>   Epson
>>>> driver.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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removed]
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