Digital BW, The Print

Mike, 

Well...from one "firnd" to another....

My post was not a criticism of silver or platinum or crayons.  My  post simply pointed out that seeing the unique qualities of Piezo may take some adjustment because of biases that already exist with many people.  The same bias is seen when speaking of painting on canvas....and one person uses acrylics and another has only used oils.  They both can produce beautiful art....but getting the "old time" oil painter to use (or see the beauty of an acrylic painting) is hard to do.....they often don't get past the use of a different "paint" and criticize it instead of looking at the art (image) itself.   

Seeing the inherent qualities of any medium takes a little "growth" on the part of the viewer.  Unfortunately, some folks expect every new medium to have all the benefits of the old without any weaknesses....or even more benefits...without any weaknesses (or simple differences).  Of course it also sometimes difficult to teach an old dog new tricks too. 

That was/is my point.  (wINK) 

I personally find masterfully made tempera, watercolor, and pastel paintings much more beautiful than any silver, platinum or palladium print (though I like some of those too).  I also admire the ability of someone like Gil Dellinger (master pastellist) who can take a piece of "chalk" (actually pure pigments) and make an image by hand that will "glow" with the light of a Pacific sunset.  So I have my biases (preferences) too.

With Respect,
Your firnd, 
Steadman

Mike wrote: (SNIP)

"Just my thoughts my firnd.

Mike"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] For Della On Shadows


> Hello Della,
>
> I found your observations of the shadow detail using Piezo versus silver
> prints very interesting.
>
> I think what happens is a natural "bias" to the medium which one has
> "learned" and lived with for a long time.  The esthetics of a silver
printer
> are probably indelibly (to use an ink term) marked by a need to have "deep
> blacks" and not so much a revel in the revealing shadows.
>
> I agree that the Piezo shadow detail can be spectacular...drawing one into
a
> print in a new way.
>
> Thanks for posting your views...I enjoyed reading them.
>
> Steadman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "della ellingson" <dellaellingson@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <dilcher@...>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:45 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo vs MIS question
>
>
> > > dilcher [mailto:dilcher@...] wrote:
> > >
> > >> ... having trouble  deciding between Piezo and MIS
> > methods.
> > >> ...Piezography is supposed to have a driver which
> > makes a substantial
> > >> difference in printing.  Is this so?
> > >
> > > You will get a variety of opinions on this, I'm
> > sure.  Mine is that the
> > > Piezo driver does, in fact, make smoother prints on
> > older quad printers, but
> > > not on newer hextone printers.  Nonetheless, while I
> > have the Piezo driver
> > > and the older quad printers, I still prefer the
> > Epson driver.  The
> > > differences in smoothness are not enough to be
> > relevant to my decision.
> >
> >
> > I have used both the Piezography driver and the
> > various MIS workflows. For me, the greatest difference
> > is the superior tonal separation of Piezography in the
> > shadows regions. Not yet have any of the alternative
> > methods been able to equal the separation of tone in
> > the shadows regions.
> >
> > However this may not be of importance according to
> > your level of quality expectation. I have found
> > several Piezographers who prefer to have the shadows
> > regions appear all black. My preference is to go
> > beyond that of the silver print in tonal fidelity of
> > shadows. Piezography does this and it is a quality
> > that I prefer. Also - there is a better highlights
> > definition.
> >
> > Like I have mentioned some photographers do not have
> > the same corresponding judgment of quality criteria. I
> > argue that Piezography is able to produce a level
> > above the silver print. They argue that getting close
> > to a silver print is all that is necessary of inkjet.
> > I am certain that my printing is of a higher concept
> > than theirs. For me it matters.
> >
> > -della
> >
> >
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