Digital BW, The Print

Piezo and MIS inks are compatible. I used to color the yellow position
piezo ink with MIS cyan and magenta inks to get cold tones. Just hook up
the new inks, and run about 20 pages or so of each position ink color
and the new ink will show up. You can also use a syringe, and suck out
the inks from the bottom of the cartridges as much as possible. This
will then require only about a dozen prints before the new inks take effect.

Jerry

tomoc wrote:
> 
> Hi Itch-
> 
> 1. The inks are probably theoretically compatible, but I would advise
> you to buy new carts ($39) and just swap out the carts so you will
> only have to clean the tubes and a quick print head cleaning cycle to
> make the change. If you want to risk mixing the two inks, the process
> would be to get a LOT of cheap paper and run flush cycles till you
> have run at least a cart full of ink through the system making the
> flush prints (file available on MIS site for flushing). I just did
> this making a more simple change from MIS FS to MIS FSN and I wish I
> didn't...it took forever and I wasn't ever clearly sure it was
> complete, etc. I would definitely not do it with the change you want
> to make.
> 
> 2. The Epson driver is very good. It has a slightly different dither
> pattern but if you use the Roark (or other) curves, you have a lot of
> control over every print that you really don't have with piezo. Piezo
> is a lot simpler to use and has lot of profiles with it. I find it
> runs about 2x-3x faster (I wonder why) than the epson driver, so I
> use it a lot for prints that look good with it (most do).
> 
> 3. I think there are some .jpg files in the archives here that show
> the 21 step files for each ink. If they are different, it isn't by
> much and the advantage probably goes to MIS (but there are multiple
> flavors of MIS). I think the answer really doesn't matter. Both inks
> can make great prints. FS and FSN work great with the Piezo driver.
> Warm tones go (declining) pretty much Piezo, FS, FSN. MIS VM flavors
> allow a gradient of tones. Piezo clogs, MIS doesn't (for me, at
> least).
> 
> My advice is pick one and work it to death. If you aren't having
> problems with piezo ink, why change? If you are, you will totally
> love the MIS FS or FSN on the piezo driver.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Tom O'Connell
> 
> TomOC@...
> www.thomasoconnell.com
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Mitch Alland <malland@m...>
> wrote:
> > A few questions:
> >
> > 1. I am using an 1160 with the CIS system from Cone, and have the
> Piezo ink in the CIS now. How should I go about switching to the FS
> inks? Can I just pour in the FS ink into the Piezo bottles, letting
> there be some mixture between the Piezo and FS inks initially?
> Otherwise, I would have to empty the Piezo ink now in the
> CIS "cartridges." If so, how do I do that?
> >
> > 2. I looked at the MIS website and found that they state that some
> people prefer the Epson driver to the Piezo driver. I find that hard
> to believe as I find the Piezo provides much better (smoother)
> gradation and virtually no dots visible in the highklights. The Piezo
> driver is also faster on the 1160. Does anyone find
> >
> > 3. Someone on this forum has stated that the MIS-FS have a
> different gradation than the Piezo ink, while other people think  the
> gradation is the same but that the tone of the MIS-FS inks is cooler.
> What are the facts?
> >
> > --Mitch
> 
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