Digital BW, The Print

"Romping in the swamp" has become a recent theme. However this 
weekend will be a "stay at home" weekend. Next week will be the last 
trip down into the Big Cypress until next winter. The mosquitos 
should be in full bloom very shortly.

Mike
 
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison 
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> On 4/4/02 9:18 PM, "tomoc" <tomoc@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Truth Number 8:
> > 
> > Don't bother printing it unless it is a Kravit-perfect image!
> > 
> Well that would certainly save money...but my printer would clog 
from lack
> of use!  I've been seeing a lot of Kravit images lately...and they 
look
> really good...even as jpg's...Michael's been hanging out in the 
swamp...and
> has drum scanned show and tell.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit"
> > <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> >> Many people ask me how is it that my inkjet prints have 
an "etched"
> > look
> >> with rich deep blacks and brilliant highlights.  This ability has
> > been the
> >> culmination and development of a number of traditional and 
digital
> >> techniques that I have come to use over the years. Well, here it
> > is, for the
> >> very first time I will tell all! ;-)
> >> 
> >> The following truths are true. They are not open to discussion, 
nor
> > are they
> >> the only workflow available. But!, if you want the truth, then 
here
> > it
> >> is.....;-)
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 1
> >> 
> >> Use great optics! No buts about it, no discussions no
> > arguments....period.
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 2
> >> 
> >> Shoot your film and learn the Zone system. I am not an advocate 
of
> > testing,
> >> but you need to know what your materials will do.
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 3
> >> 
> >> Process your negatives in a staining Pyro developer. This is a
> > religion and
> >> I fully understand that. BUT, you wanted the truth, so here it 
is.
> > Process
> >> your negatives in PMK Pyro. The stain acts fills in between the
> > grain
> >> proportionately, That is, more stain builds up in the areas where
> > there is
> >> less silver and less stain in areas where there is more silver.
> > And, most
> >> importantly the negatives will have very high accutance and will
> > exhibit
> >> strong edge effects. You will see a fine black line along areas 
of
> > tonal
> >> change. The negatives will glow and so will your prints. 
Especially
> > so with
> >> low light situations, soft light, and fog!
> >> 
> >> You may not agree, but hey the truth hurts!
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 4
> >> 
> >> No matter how good your service bureau tells you their new 
fangled
> > Imacon
> >> is, insist on a drum scan. Insist on a flat scan, that is tell 
them
> > you want
> >> absolutely NO ADJUSTMENTS. No USM, no contrast adjustments and no
> > gamma
> >> adjustments. Ask them to scan your PMK Pyro negatives as RGB 48 
bit
> > files.
> >> Have them scan using a native optical resolution resolution of 
the
> > drum
> >> scanners that is the smallest resolution that you can use. That 
is,
> > scan at
> >> 300dpi at the image size rather than at 4000dpi at 1:1. The 
reason
> > for this
> >> is simple, at the lower dpi settings the drum will not scan the
> > grain. If
> >> you scan at the higher resolutions the drum scanner will adjust 
the
> > aperture
> >> and will scan right down into the grain and your Tri-X scan will 
be
> > the most
> >> georgeous example of TX grain you have ever seen.
> >> 
> >> This applies to drum scanners omly and may not be applicable to 
CCD
> >> scanners.
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 5
> >> 
> >> Do as many of the tonal, contrast, and gamma adjustments as you 
can
> > in 16
> >> bit mode. Use duplicate copies of your images to make selections 
and
> >> adjustment layers. Then you can copy these selections into the 16
> > bit file
> >> as needed.
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 6
> >> 
> >> Buy the best paper you can. Saving $0.50 per sheet and buying 
Epson
> > Archival
> >> (Enhanced) Matte is silly and short sighted. The better papers 
are
> > 100%
> >> Cotton Rag, acid free and will help you obtain deep dense right
> > blacks,
> >> lovely midtones and brilliant highlights.
> >> 
> >> Truth No. 7
> >> 
> >> Whatever I say here works for me in my studio, in my darkroom, 
and
> > in my
> >> town. It may not work for you in yours. Technology is changing so
> > fast, that
> >> in 15 minutes everything that I just told you make be untrue!
> >> 
> >> Mike
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "btmcelhaney" <kmcelhaney@t...>
> >> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:25 PM
> >> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo Pro 24 RIP
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>>>>>>> Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
> >>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo 
Matt.<<<<<<
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> That sounds nearly impossible to do while retaining any kind of
> >>> quality! What's the secret? I would certainly like to see one of
> >>> those exibition prints.
> >>> 
> >>> Bruce McElhaney
> >>> McElhaney Portrait Studio
> >>> Livonia, MI
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., toomagenta@a... wrote:
> >>>> In a message dated 4/2/2002 10:34:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >>>> butchhul@a... writes:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> George,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I am also using a 7000 with the IP4 RIP and MIS-FS inks. Just
> >>>>> finished framing and hanging a show of prints that I finished
> >>> this
> >>>>> past weekend.
> >>>> Butch,
> >>>> Thanks for responding to my query.
> >>>> I am glad to hear from others who are using the system and are
> >>> happy with it.
> >>>> Not too many people chimed in, which I am guessing is a sign of
> >>> lack of usage
> >>>> rather than dissatisfaction.
> >>>> Congratulations on your apparent success. I hope your 
exhibition
> >>> leads to
> >>>> many other successes.
> >>>> (Must also say, Mike Kravit is both a gentleman and a fine
> > source
> >>>> of information for any traveling down this particular road.)
> >>>> I must agree with you 110% on this point. Not only has he
> > offered
> >>> his
> >>>> knowlege, experience and expertise, but he has generously
> > offered
> >>> to send a
> >>>> sample print so I can put an eyeball on the picture!
> >>>> They say that what goes around, comes around, so I hope some of
> > the
> >>> best
> >>>> things that come around come back to  Mike.
> >>>> This list is a pleasure to participate in, and I hope that I 
can
> >>> someday
> >>>> contribute to it in a positive way.
> >>>> ( Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
> >>>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt.)
> >>>> Sounds like an amazing feat!
> >>>> Thanks again,
> >>>> George J Kunze
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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