Digital BW, The Print

It was...shucks...I had thrown my D1x and my SS4000 out the window...darn...

:-(

Robert

On 4/5/02 7:21 AM, "mkravit" <michael.kravit@...> wrote:

> "Romping in the swamp" has become a recent theme. However this
> weekend will be a "stay at home" weekend. Next week will be the last
> trip down into the Big Cypress until next winter. The mosquitos
> should be in full bloom very shortly.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison
> <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
>> On 4/4/02 9:18 PM, "tomoc" <tomoc@y...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Truth Number 8:
>>> 
>>> Don't bother printing it unless it is a Kravit-perfect image!
>>> 
>> Well that would certainly save money...but my printer would clog
> from lack
>> of use!  I've been seeing a lot of Kravit images lately...and they
> look
>> really good...even as jpg's...Michael's been hanging out in the
> swamp...and
>> has drum scanned show and tell.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit"
>>> <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
>>>> Many people ask me how is it that my inkjet prints have
> an "etched"
>>> look
>>>> with rich deep blacks and brilliant highlights.  This ability has
>>> been the
>>>> culmination and development of a number of traditional and
> digital
>>>> techniques that I have come to use over the years. Well, here it
>>> is, for the
>>>> very first time I will tell all! ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> The following truths are true. They are not open to discussion,
> nor
>>> are they
>>>> the only workflow available. But!, if you want the truth, then
> here
>>> it
>>>> is.....;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 1
>>>> 
>>>> Use great optics! No buts about it, no discussions no
>>> arguments....period.
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 2
>>>> 
>>>> Shoot your film and learn the Zone system. I am not an advocate
> of
>>> testing,
>>>> but you need to know what your materials will do.
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 3
>>>> 
>>>> Process your negatives in a staining Pyro developer. This is a
>>> religion and
>>>> I fully understand that. BUT, you wanted the truth, so here it
> is.
>>> Process
>>>> your negatives in PMK Pyro. The stain acts fills in between the
>>> grain
>>>> proportionately, That is, more stain builds up in the areas where
>>> there is
>>>> less silver and less stain in areas where there is more silver.
>>> And, most
>>>> importantly the negatives will have very high accutance and will
>>> exhibit
>>>> strong edge effects. You will see a fine black line along areas
> of
>>> tonal
>>>> change. The negatives will glow and so will your prints.
> Especially
>>> so with
>>>> low light situations, soft light, and fog!
>>>> 
>>>> You may not agree, but hey the truth hurts!
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 4
>>>> 
>>>> No matter how good your service bureau tells you their new
> fangled
>>> Imacon
>>>> is, insist on a drum scan. Insist on a flat scan, that is tell
> them
>>> you want
>>>> absolutely NO ADJUSTMENTS. No USM, no contrast adjustments and no
>>> gamma
>>>> adjustments. Ask them to scan your PMK Pyro negatives as RGB 48
> bit
>>> files.
>>>> Have them scan using a native optical resolution resolution of
> the
>>> drum
>>>> scanners that is the smallest resolution that you can use. That
> is,
>>> scan at
>>>> 300dpi at the image size rather than at 4000dpi at 1:1. The
> reason
>>> for this
>>>> is simple, at the lower dpi settings the drum will not scan the
>>> grain. If
>>>> you scan at the higher resolutions the drum scanner will adjust
> the
>>> aperture
>>>> and will scan right down into the grain and your Tri-X scan will
> be
>>> the most
>>>> georgeous example of TX grain you have ever seen.
>>>> 
>>>> This applies to drum scanners omly and may not be applicable to
> CCD
>>>> scanners.
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 5
>>>> 
>>>> Do as many of the tonal, contrast, and gamma adjustments as you
> can
>>> in 16
>>>> bit mode. Use duplicate copies of your images to make selections
> and
>>>> adjustment layers. Then you can copy these selections into the 16
>>> bit file
>>>> as needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 6
>>>> 
>>>> Buy the best paper you can. Saving $0.50 per sheet and buying
> Epson
>>> Archival
>>>> (Enhanced) Matte is silly and short sighted. The better papers
> are
>>> 100%
>>>> Cotton Rag, acid free and will help you obtain deep dense right
>>> blacks,
>>>> lovely midtones and brilliant highlights.
>>>> 
>>>> Truth No. 7
>>>> 
>>>> Whatever I say here works for me in my studio, in my darkroom,
> and
>>> in my
>>>> town. It may not work for you in yours. Technology is changing so
>>> fast, that
>>>> in 15 minutes everything that I just told you make be untrue!
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "btmcelhaney" <kmcelhaney@t...>
>>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:25 PM
>>>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo Pro 24 RIP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
>>>>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo
> Matt.<<<<<<
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That sounds nearly impossible to do while retaining any kind of
>>>>> quality! What's the secret? I would certainly like to see one of
>>>>> those exibition prints.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bruce McElhaney
>>>>> McElhaney Portrait Studio
>>>>> Livonia, MI
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., toomagenta@a... wrote:
>>>>>> In a message dated 4/2/2002 10:34:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> butchhul@a... writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am also using a 7000 with the IP4 RIP and MIS-FS inks. Just
>>>>>>> finished framing and hanging a show of prints that I finished
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> past weekend.
>>>>>> Butch,
>>>>>> Thanks for responding to my query.
>>>>>> I am glad to hear from others who are using the system and are
>>>>> happy with it.
>>>>>> Not too many people chimed in, which I am guessing is a sign of
>>>>> lack of usage
>>>>>> rather than dissatisfaction.
>>>>>> Congratulations on your apparent success. I hope your
> exhibition
>>>>> leads to
>>>>>> many other successes.
>>>>>> (Must also say, Mike Kravit is both a gentleman and a fine
>>> source
>>>>>> of information for any traveling down this particular road.)
>>>>>> I must agree with you 110% on this point. Not only has he
>>> offered
>>>>> his
>>>>>> knowlege, experience and expertise, but he has generously
>>> offered
>>>>> to send a
>>>>>> sample print so I can put an eyeball on the picture!
>>>>>> They say that what goes around, comes around, so I hope some of
>>> the
>>>>> best
>>>>>> things that come around come back to  Mike.
>>>>>> This list is a pleasure to participate in, and I hope that I
> can
>>>>> someday
>>>>>> contribute to it in a positive way.
>>>>>> ( Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi
>>>>>> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt.)
>>>>>> Sounds like an amazing feat!
>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>> George J Kunze
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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