Art needs gestation time to develop and craft needs nutrients to grow. t > From: "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:27:53 -0500 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Random Thoughts > > Martin, > > I think that this is the key. One who has mastered his craft can express his > vision and not get bogged down and frustrated by the inability to tecnicall > express what he sees. > > Many of us learned the Zone system when we were in the early years of out > photographic careers, some in the middle and still some late or never. Those > that did master the craft of building a negative and understand the > relationship of how it will print became efficient and hopefully competent > printers. > > I think that when people say that it is the art that counts, the image is > everything, this is only somewhat true. Without the ability to competently > express that vision and make a fine print, the best image will suffer. On > the other hand, we all agree that a technically perfect but boring print > will never be a great image just because it was printed wonderfully. > > Still again, some people say we should get out more and shoot more instead > of spending so much time discussing digital techniques and printing 21 step > wedges. Well, that is only partially true. I encourage all those starting > out in photography to shoot atleast 1 roll of film a day. To have their > camera with them at all times. Make lots of photographs and learn from the > process. In the begining you will have lots of awful images, but as time > goes on they will improve as your vision improves. > > Many of us with a great amount of experience shoot in spirts. We may spend > 10-15 days in a row shooting and print for the next 4 or 6 months. I think > it is rare to find a fine art photographer that shoots everyday or several > times a week. I would say that I shoot 2-3 days a month on a good month. I > must be motivated and be "in the zone". When I am, I tend to be very > productive and seem to be able to capture my vision. Yet, I can easily shoot > 20 sheets of film and get that 1 special greatest hit. This is the process > that I have found that works for me. I need time for my creative side to > build up a vision. Currently I am working on 4 dieeferent projects. I move > from project to project depending on how I feel and how the wind blows. > (Sometimes literally if shooting in the Big Cypress as less wind is better). > > So to those that say shoot more and print less setp wedges, if that works > for you.....then by all means go for it! > > Happy shooting and printing.... > > Mike > > > Martin wrote: >> In the end this let me step back from >> a strict application of the Zone System to my own way of working that is >> Zone based but a bit more intuitive. Maybe it was just all the practice. > > <snippity do dah!> > >> We have to keep in mind that even though me may have mastered conventional >> photographic printing this is a whole new ballgame and there are no real >> experts yet. The technology needs to settle a bit and we need to put in > the >> practice time with these new digital tools. >> >> Martin Wesley > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Random Thoughts
2002-04-07 by ternahan
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