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Re: Do-it-yourself Inkset

2002-04-08 by stevekphoto

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stevekphoto" <stevek@e...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Do-it-yourself Inkset
> 
> 
> (snip)
> >
> > Paper type: Matte paper heavyweight
> >        DPI: 1440
> > Color management : color controls
> >      Gamma: 2.2
> >
> > Martin!- are you suggesting that 2 weeks of 12 hours a day of
> > messing with these inks was an inadequate test? I do hope you're
> > kidding!
> 
> Only partially. When I first went to the VM inks on my 1280 the 
curves had
> not been refined and there was about a two month gap before I got 
to the
> point I wanted.

Then it seems I should commend you on your perseverance. For myself, 
I needed to get on with it, and the warm part of the set simply 
didn't work well enough.
 
> I guess my concern is that the VM inks with the curves works for 
the
> majority of people with a reasonable screen to print match. If it 
isn't
> working for you, then I would suspect that there is something wrong
> somewhere in the set-up, with the printer, etc. So it seems 
unlikely that if
> you create a workflow that works well for your system, and I do 
salute you
> for being ingenious and persevering enough to do this, that it may 
not work
> with anyone else's.

I concede that this setup may not, but my opinion (completely 
untested at this point) is that it will work not only for any 1280, 
but with relatively little work, on any six ink printer. Is that an 
outrageous enough claim to get your hackles up? I thought so! So 
I'll go you one better on your offer to trade step-wedges: Send me a 
virgin empty cart and the cost of the ink, and I'll fill it and let 
you try it for yourself if you have a spare six-inker not tied up 
with a CIS. WHAT SAY?

> If you would like to send me some printed step wedges using the VM 
inks and
> curve I would be happy to take a look and send you some form my 
system in
> return.


> Generally monitor to print matching issue is approached by 
adjusting the
> monitor software settings rather than adjusting the ink set. You 
have a lot
> of options to create custom dot gain curves to match your output. 
The ideal
> approach is to create a monitor profile for each ink and paper 
combination
> but this requires some pricey equipment.

As far as my system goes, it's calibrated fairly well, my color 
prints match up to my monitor nicely, as do my RGB attempts at B&W.
AS you say, the real solution is the proper driver, and profiles 
matched to paper and ink. Soon. But you know how that goes: I also 
need an Epson 7500, (and software for it) a CIS, better software for 
my scanner, a glass neg carrier for same, on and on.... all in good 
time.
> 
> Martin
> >
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