Digital BW, The Print

Six weeks in CA sun through glass results in a large change in EAM.  This is
easily measurable.  But then this isn't North Dakota.  In my opinion EAM
should not be used for anything other than proofing...I don't even use it
for that anymore.  It is not acid free, not 100% rag and has OB's.  It
certainly should never have been called archival...but Epson learned that
the hard way.  I suppose it would be ok for a dark store temporary portfolio
though...I just don't prefer it's surface...I like something with a little
more texture to hid dither.

Robert

On 4/9/02 11:31 AM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:

> Not noticeable enough to bother with, really. The paper turns just
> slightly cream colored under long exposure to direct sunlight. I've
> never seen any fading under normal lighting conditions.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> tzinzunzan2000 wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. It would be great to have a comprehensive list of papers
>> that use OB's. What I don't understand is 1) why OB's are used if
>> they cause an otherwise good (but perhaps less white) paper to
>> noticeably yellow over time (of course, the exception might be those
>> cheaper papers that are used for proofing) and 2) if OB's are a
>> problem, then why do many printers knowingly use papers that contain
>> OB's. I've heard, for example, that some people on this list use EAM
>> for prints that they sell. Is yellowing a problem with EAM or is it
>> in truth not noticeable enough to warrant a change of paper.
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "antonisphoto"
>> <antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
>>> Good work Robert. It was about time somebody did this test!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonis
>>> 
>>> <now I'll go get depressed since Orwell and PRag are my two
>> favorites.... >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison
>> <rmorrison@p...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> After the latest debate about whether Photo Rag has OB's or
>> not...I
>>>> purchased a black light (with a SB-4W bulb).
>> 
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